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What science says about homosexuality

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Andreusz

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I would say that it makes no difference whether homosexuality is genetic, environmental, or a 'choice' (or some combination of these). In a democracy, people are free to make choices, as long as they do not harm others; and they should not be denied human rights for having made those choices, simply because other people don't like what they have chosen.
 
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I would say that it makes no difference whether homosexuality is genetic, environmental, or a 'choice' (or some combination of these). In a democracy, people are free to make choices, as long as they do not harm others; and they should not be denied human rights for having made those choices, simply because other people don't like what they have chosen.

I agree totally. Regardless of whether it is a "choice" or not, they should still be allowed to have homosexual relationships (even sexually active ones) because they are not harming anyone. If the sex is responsible (using a condom as protection for example) and both persons are adults and the sex is consensual, I see nothing wrong with this because they are not harming anyone.

Also, gay marriage should be legal and homosexuals should have equal rights. It is wrong to deny them these rights just because you think that your religion condemns their actions. That is bigoted and hateful. America is supposed to have a guarantee to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If that pursuit of happiness involves getting married to a person of the same sex, it should be allowed. But anyway, I'm droning on. Homosexuals and bisexuals (as well as transsexuals and transvestites) deserve equal rights and that's the end of the story. :thumbsup:
 
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I would say that it makes no difference whether homosexuality is genetic, environmental, or a 'choice' (or some combination of these). In a democracy, people are free to make choices, as long as they do not harm others; and they should not be denied human rights for having made those choices, simply because other people don't like what they have chosen.

Exactly. It's ironic that the very same people who call homosexuality a choice and want it to be illegal would fight to the death to protect their choice of religion.
 
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There is no genetic causation that has yet been found. Sorry.

Straw man, since I made no such claim. I did say there appear to be biologic differences that have been found -- not genetic -- and gave a source for that claim.

Uhh, where did you get this figure???:confused:
This is a number that I saw long ago offline and you will find it frequently repeated by various sources on the 'net. However, a study I did find is "Are Transvestites Necessarily Heterosexual" by Bonnie Bullough and Vern Bullough. In it they find that less than 10% of crossdressing men are homosexual. I also found "Comparison of Transvestism in Australia and America" by Neil Buhrich, M.B.B.S.; D.P.M.; M.R.C. Psych.; M.D.1 and Trina Beaumont, B.Sc.2; which also supports this percentage.
 
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I would say that it makes no difference whether homosexuality is genetic, environmental, or a 'choice' (or some combination of these). In a democracy, people are free to make choices, as long as they do not harm others; and they should not be denied human rights for having made those choices, simply because other people don't like what they have chosen.

Andy,

Bravo.

I 100% agree with you.

But do people that oppose homosexuality and the encouraging of it, do they get free speech rights to counter gay arguments and to offer "questioning youth" other "choices?"

You hit a homerun pal.
 
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But do people that oppose homosexuality and the encouraging of it, do they get free speech rights to counter gay arguments and to offer "questioning youth" other "choices?"

Of course they do. The problem is that "Free speech rights" does not mean "Freedom from consequences of speech". If people dislike you for what you say, your freedom to say it has not been infringed upon.
 
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Of course they do. The problem is that "Free speech rights" does not mean "Freedom from consequences of speech". If people dislike you for what you say, your freedom to say it has not been infringed upon.

Then I must be the free-est person on these boards.

And my opposition to gay activism is only just beginning.

I get my own class soon.
 
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You just want to be able to yell "Movie!" at a crowded fire hall.

No, I would shout Megan Fox is in the movie, and then go with the right crowd heading off to it.

I know, I know, that'll make you have to think about my reponse . . .


:p
 
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Andy,

Bravo.

I 100% agree with you.

But do people that oppose homosexuality and the encouraging of it, do they get free speech rights to counter gay arguments and to offer "questioning youth" other "choices?"

What choices do you plan on offering a questioning youth who is, or thinks he/she might be, gay?

David.
 
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The odds are that they are not. That the culture is saying that they are just for thinking about it. Stuff like that.

It is encouraged for the reason of population control. Eugenics has never gone away.
 
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The odds are that they are not. That the culture is saying that they are just for thinking about it. Stuff like that.

Oh sure, statistically if only 5% of people are gay, then the odds of any individual being gay are...exactly that, 5%.

But if a guy says, "I find other guys attractive", or if a lass says, "I find other gals attractive," then the odds that they're gay (or at least bisexual) rather go up, regardless of what "the culture" says. I'm curious as to what sort of advice you'd give to someone in that situation.

David.
 
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