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What presuppositions?

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MarkT said:
No I can see things fall down but I can't see relatedness. The classification system not only categorizes, it relates. It would be fine if it only categorized but relatedness is a presupposition.

Relatedness is derived from looking at the fossil record, among other things. Whether you agree with this interpretation is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that relatedness is derived from the evidence means it is not a presupposition.
 
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Relatedness is derived from looking at the fossil record, among other things. Whether you agree with this interpretation is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that relatedness is derived from the evidence means it is not a presupposition.

Of course it's relevant. I don't agree with your presupposition. I don't agree relatedness is evident from looking at the fossil record or from looking at the classification system.
 
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MarkT said:
Of course it's relevant. I don't agree with your presupposition. I don't agree relatedness is evident from looking at the fossil record or from looking at the classification system.

Whether or not you agree with something does not determine if it is a presupposition or not.
 
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truth above all else said:
poppycock , as a naturalist Darwin was committed to naturalism...

No. As a naturalist, he was studying nature. Get the difference? By your rather elastic definition of naturalism, one could also claim he liked to go to nudist camps as well.
 
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MarkT said:
That all forms of life are related. The classification system creates the illusion. Apparently that's what science is trying to prove but there's really no other reason to presuppose it.

So when I'm in a store and see someone who looks like my cousin and investigate by asking questions and determine he's a 2nd cousin of mine, it's a presupposition and not a conclusion based on what I found out?
 
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MarkT said:
No I can see things fall down but I can't see relatedness. The classification system not only categorizes, it relates. It would be fine if it only categorized but relatedness is a presupposition.
Are you saying there is no apparent biological relationship between any two organisms in the fossil record? That would make you the most extreme creationist of all time.
 
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MarkT said:
Of course it's relevant. I don't agree with your presupposition. I don't agree relatedness is evident from looking at the fossil record or from looking at the classification system.

You said in another post that of course you have no idea what you are talking about.

So please tell us all why you act like you do?

Ed
 
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