Light hearted;54057091]Let's dig into this abit...Do you truely believe that after one has been told the knowledge of truth, that one is expected to never wilfully sin again. By posting Hebrews 10:26 you are leaning towards this view.
Lh
It is written, do I expect to believe it, yes because it is written you read it, do you believe everyword in this book called God's word?
LH do you steal, since you know stealing is against the laws of God?
since you know that it's wrong, you wwilling doing it, without regard to the word of God.
For if we willfully sin after that we have received the knowledge of truth. Ozell, that leaves only one wilfull sin after receiving the knowledge of truth. In your view that's it, done deal, doomed deal.
where did you see me write doomed or done deal LH?
read it again and tell me what you think it means, Iknow what it means it means exactly what it says, Lets read it again.
this is what it means
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
and lets finish it
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But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
what is your understanding of this?
Mine understanding is exactly what it says!
Ok, now in order for me to know my sin, I need to know all 600 laws, or how ever many there are. Once I know "all" the laws, then if i sin, I would have sinned willingly, done deal, doomed deal. My knowledge brings death.
who told you that you need to know all 600 laws LH? more than half of the 600 laws pertain to animal sacrifce and thats done away with. the rest of the 600 pertain to the 10 commandments.
LH show me some of the 600 laws you are talking about!
you knowledge of sin brings death? read that to me from the bible please.
lets quote what Paul said
Rom 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
the payement of sin is death, not the knowledge.
Now on the flip side, my best chance is to know absolutly no laws what so ever, this would give me a better chance of not commiting a willful sin. If I don't know it was unlawfull, I didn't sin, now my ignorance saves me.
what did the verse say
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
yet you cannot get away from knowing NO laws LH, Jesus said in the New Covenant which everyone like to quote, but don't understand
Jesus said
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold,
the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
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For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord;
I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
The Laws are God will be on everyone mind and heart, this is the New Covenant!
Now this goes against your request to "know" and read the Bible to help bring salvation. In Hebrews 10, I'd be better off knowing none of the Bible.
NO! Paul told you throughout his writing not to be ignorant
1Thes 4:13
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
2Cor 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us:
for we are not ignorant of his devices.
2Cor 1:8
For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measur
1Cor 10:1 Moreover, brethren
, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Cor 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren,
I would not have you ignorant.
ignorance is not an excuse.
I just don't see how your interpertation comes full circle.
this is because you don't understand sin.
You asked if, God would forgive you of adultery? I gave a list of adultery situations, good commentary, let's go another direction. You brought up Ez 18:19 about sons and parents iniquities.
Good chapter and verse, now lets move down to Ez 18:27-28...27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Looks like you were close to your own answer, looks like God and his mercy will grant you time to turn away from your wickedness to save your soul. Question is, how long and how many times can you commit adultery? According to Heb 10. you inturpret death, no more sacifice since it was wilfull. Ez 18 states differently. Should we go deeper into Heb 10?
LH
that wicked man who TURNED from his sin STOP sinning!
of course God is merciful are we not born in sin, even if we sin ignorantly its still sin and the bible say the wages of sin is death.
how many time shall a man who know adultery is wrong continue to commit adultery and think he is getting away with it.
how many time can this man ask forgiveness of this wilfull sin that he continue to commit
lets read
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
since he know that it is wrong and he continue to do it haow many time can he get on his knees and ask forgiveness?
keep in mind to LH this is what he has to look forward to
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But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries
because he trodden underfoot the blood of Jesus!
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Now LH
what law did Jesus replace since you are acknowledging that the commandments are still intact today?
