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Lollard said:
The reason I asked about the cost by the way comes from the install instructions as well as no "free download" options over on the SuSE page.

The instructions say:"Impressed? Then visit the SUSE home page and order your full Personal version with detailed documentation and free installation support. Or order your SUSE LINUX 9.1 Professoinal Update version."

So is that all I am missing when I download the ISO is the manuals? Thanks for the help here people I am not trying to be difficult or anything, I am just wanting to make sure this isn't trialware or nagware or anything before I install it.

Thanks for the linux questions website as well!
The manuals and tech support. I've been so impressed by SuSE 9.1 Personal that I plan to buy it so I can have the tech support and to support them. Personally, I find it easier to use than Windows. Well, aside from installing the ATI drivers for my Radeon so I can play America's Army. ;)
 
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The support is the only difference between Personal and Pro for any distro at all. You can upgrade and install to the exact same OS (packages, programs and all) with Personal as you can with Pro. The thing with Pro is, when you buy it, it usually comes prepackaged with most of the stuff you'll want to d/l, so it'll save you time. But, if you have a broadband connection, it hardly matters anyhow. I have cable and do a full FTP install every time. I buy SuSE Pro to support em, though. Although now that theyre with Novell, we'll see what happens. PM me on an IM any time if anyone has any questions about switching from Windows to Linux. Or, from Windows to a Mac. :) I'll be glad to help.
 
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Well I spent way to long trying to figure out how to install linux on a computer. In my opinion it is for the birds. If it cannot format a hard drive on its own, or set itself up, it is never going to be main stream for the average user.

Someone gave me a 750mhz AMD with 320MB of ram and an 8 gig hard drive. Right now the thing is set to fat32. I am trying to delete that partition and make it soley a linux box.

I am so frustrated with cfdisk and trying to get it to recognize partitions. I am trying to install Slackware because SuSE 9.1 gave me error messages during installation that had to do with software packages or soemthing. At least Slackware got me to a utility that would attempt to format a hard drive...

Anyway I just needed to vent...
 
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Well when you follow all the directions it is indeed easy enough to do. Apparently in Slackwares cfdisk, to "write" the partitions you have to use a capital W, to ensure that you want to do what you are asking it to do.

SIGH. Back to the grind.
 
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Lollard, its really easy to install knoppix, even on a separate drive. Just partition whatever hd you want to use and select the right drive when you configure the install. Its all pretty much automatic, except for partitioning. Itll even install the bootloader for you so you can run windows too (select write to mbr). Suse is much more user friendly (easier to install than windows), but I prefer a Debian based distro (which is what knoppix is).
 
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Lollard said:
Well I spent way to long trying to figure out how to install linux on a computer. In my opinion it is for the birds. If it cannot format a hard drive on its own, or set itself up, it is never going to be main stream for the average user.
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I am so frustrated with cfdisk and trying to get it to recognize partitions. I am trying to install Slackware because SuSE 9.1 gave me error messages during installation that had to do with software packages or soemthing. At least Slackware got me to a utility that would attempt to format a hard drive...

Anyway I just needed to vent...
Hmmm... I installed SUSE 8.0 Pro w/out a hitch. I haven't upgraded yet, but you might have considered the SUSE e-mail lists - the guys really do try to help out with issues. I've never had an issue with Yast not formatting the HDD - it's a pretty easy graphical tool to use.

You will run into "dependency" issues in certain cases. Yast should give you a default option to install the required packages. That's generally considered very friendly of the OS - otherwise, you'd be looking for the dependencies yourself. You also need to choose which printing system you want to use at install time - CUPS or LPRNG. You cannot use both - and Yast won't let you - at least not very easily.

Incidentally, When I started, I was basically an "average" user. I've played with Red Hat (5.2/7.2) and Mandrake 8.0. I've also been tinkering recently with Morphix.

My morphix experience with cfdisk was not quite so frustrating.

Hope you find that helpful.

Don
 
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Okay here are the problems I have been having:
With SuSE 9.1 I get an error message in YAST saying that the software package isn't loaded or whatever. So it won't go any further.

Slackware 10 is the farthest I can get. I can through cfdisk mount the drives and whatever, and it gets to a certain point of the install and says it gets an input error.

Knoppix is probably my best shot, but it does a curious thing and makes my monitor fall asleep. Can't wake it up either. I am thinking my cdrom is bad, and I might have to replace it.

Mandrake had issues as well. Perhaps I need to try and older version of these distros?

So anyway I am at an impasse with out any OS on this empty box.
 
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Lollard said:
Okay here are the problems I have been having:
With SuSE 9.1 I get an error message in YAST saying that the software package isn't loaded or whatever. So it won't go any further.

Slackware 10 is the farthest I can get. I can through cfdisk mount the drives and whatever, and it gets to a certain point of the install and says it gets an input error.

Knoppix is probably my best shot, but it does a curious thing and makes my monitor fall asleep. Can't wake it up either. I am thinking my cdrom is bad, and I might have to replace it.

Mandrake had issues as well. Perhaps I need to try and older version of these distros?

So anyway I am at an impasse with out any OS on this empty box.


Perhaps you can post some details on the actual error messages you are getting. Also some details on the specific box you are using. Some of the newer distro's are demanding of hardware, you might find it better to use an older one.

Personally I find Fedora to be more forgiving of strange hardware, although I do have a box that I couldn't get any graphical distro installed on at all. SuSe 9.0 is also more forgiving that 9.1 for some reason as well.
 
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The Box I am using is an AMD 750 with 320 mb ram 8.6 GB hard drive... Nothing out of the ordinary I would think.

In slackware, i get half way through the installation and i receive this error:

grep:/var/log/mount/slackware/ap/tagfile:Input/output error

I am begining to think it is the box, not the software. On the otherhand it could be user error ;)
 
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Lo and behold I have Linux. What I had to do was disconnect the hard drives from this monster and install Linux on the new box hard drive with this machine. Works like a charm. I ended up using SuSE 9.1 because it was the easiest and Slackware ticked me off. I am going to try and put Knoppix on this puppy and hopefully dual boot. Wish me luck :)
 
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