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Unless I am untruthful, it is irrelevant.You are evasive.
Okay. . .but you are aware, right, that
the NT reveals there is only one gospel of Jesus Christ,
given personally by Jesus Christ to the apostle Paul (Galatians 1:11-12),
who was caught up to the third heaven (2 Corinthians 12:1-8),
any other gospels being a perversion (Galatians 1:7) and
anyone preaching another gospel being eternally condemned (Galatians 1:8-9).
Yes, there are about 14 NT appellations for the one NT gospel.The term Gospel of the Kingdom is used by Matthew, Mark, and Jesus. It's a Biblical term used to describe the message of Jesus to the Jews, essentially the Jesus story.
However, I am sure you are aware that the NT does not use it in reference to only a portion of the gospel, but to the whole one and only gospel.There is nothing sinister about it,
it's perfectly fine when righty used as a descriptive for that portion of the gospel.
Not sure what you are implying. . .I was just curious to see what you would say.
You may not be as Pauline as you think you are.
Good for Calvin. . .because it is also a Pauline trait. . .and he was here long before Calvin.The fast draw on the condemnation is a Calvinist trait.
It means that we are reckoned with Adam's guilt (not with the one sin itself), by imputation.
Yes, we inherited Adam's sinful nature.
But we did not inherit his guilt (sin and guilt are not inherited), rather his guilt was imputed/accounted to us by God himself.
Note that the two contrasting parallels of the text (Romans 5:18-19) state "condemnation for all mankind" because of one trespass."
It does not state condemnation because of a predisposition to sin by the nature of sinful flesh.
But note that the text states precisely that righteousness (justification) was credited/reckoned/accounted/imputed to Abraham by faith (Romans 4:2-3; Genesis 15:6),
just as by faith God credits/reckons/accounts/imputes Christ's righteousness (justification) to believers (Romans 1:17, Romans 3:21-24).
However, we do not receive Christ's righteous nature.
The nature of the believer is still fallen, however, sin no longer has dominion/power over him.
Correct. . .we did not commit Adam's sin, its guilt was imputed/accounted to us.
Nor do we have Christ's nature, his righteousness is imputed/accounted to us.
Inheritance and reckoning/imputation are two different things:
We inherit the nature of our ancestors--sinful.
We are reckoned/imputed with the guilt of Adam by birth, and
we are reckoned/imputed with the righteousness of Christ by rebirth/faith.
No, we inherit what is natural, such as our fallen nature of the flesh, by the natural law of generating, like we inherit our eye color, etc.What was imputed is the disease of aging and the fallen nature of the flesh.
The judgment ("guilty") leads to condemnation.The judgment leads to condemnation. Judgment is about your sins, not Adams.
Let's not get defensive, okay?I said we do not receive credit for the works of Christ so feel free to stop twisting my words.
In Romans 5:18, "condemnation" (katakrima) is the judgment against (kata) crime (krima), the sentence passed upon due to a crime; the judgment of death, both physical and spiritual.
The judgment leads to condemnation. Judgment is about your sins, not Adams.
I said we do not receive credit for the works of Christ so feel free to stop twisting my words.
In Romans 5:18, "condemnation" (katakrima) is the judgment against (kata) crime (krima), the sentence passed upon due to a crime; the judgment of death, both physical and spiritual.
Let's not get defensive, okay?
You said we receive his nature. Not quite. . .
There is "imputed" righteousness (justification), and there is "imparted" righteousness (sanctification), which is a process of actual transformation to righteousness, and which "imputed" righteousness is not.
Imputed righteousness is simply a declaration, a verdict, because of faith, but it doesn't change us, transform us.
Imparted righteousness is transformation of us, through the obedience of sanctification in the Holy Spirit, leading to holiness (Romans 6:16, Romans 6:19), which is actual righteousness.
We are to live out what we are by the new birth, but which will not be complete until glory in our sinless bodies of the resurrection.10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Snarky and wrong at the same time, kinda funny.
Romans 8:33 affirms that God justifies the elect. It does nothing to prove God predestines events.
1 Timothy 2:6 and 1 John 2:2 say that Jesus gave himself a ransom for all. So why the apparent contradiction? I see 1 Timothy 4:10 providing a clue. Paul says "the living God is the Savior of all men", but then he adds "especially of those who believe". Why the distinction? The ransom was paid for all men, but it is only benefits those who believe (i.e. those who mix the promise with faith per Hebrews 4:2).Jesus said he came "to give his life as a ransom for many "(Matthew 20:28).
To paraphrase: You say God "dragnets" some to Himself so that they prefer His will over their fallen sinful disposition. And it is only in that condition that a man can and ultimately must respond positively of his own free will to God, repent, and be saved.But when God draws ("dragnets") one to himself, he does so by operating in their fallen sinful disposition, giving them to prefer his will, which they then freely choose because they now prefer it.
They come of their own free will, choosing what they prefer, without any external force or constraint.
Calvinist and Reformed are pretty much interchangeable. And most Reformed congregants understand something about John Calvin and his doctrine.I believe in predestination, wherein God chooses whom He will save and destroy the rest on judgment day, as do a small number of others. The rest of you believe in "free will" salvation, otherwise known as Arminianism. People like to call predestination "Calvinism," but that is a misnomer, as John Calvin did not create, discover or originate the doctrine of predestination, he believed it and taught it to others. Predestination is in Scripture. Just as Calvin's name is not found in Scripture, neither is the name of Jacobus Arminius, from which the word "Arminianism" derives.
In answer to Precisely what am I evading?:Unless I am untruthful, it is irrelevant.
Precisely what am I evading?
I am familiar enough with Calvin, but he is not the only, nor the best Reformed theologian.
Ad hominem. . . in lieu of a Biblical demonstration?
We are to live out what we are by the new birth, but which will not be complete until glory in our sinless bodies of the resurrection.
Romans 5 is about both our death in Adam prior to our new birth, and our life in Christ after our new birth.
Yes, there are about 14 NT appellations for the one NT gospel.
There is only one Gospel, and any assertion otherwise is contra-NT apostolic teaching (didactics).
However, I am sure you are aware that the NT does not use it in reference to only a portion of the gospel, but to the whole one and only gospel.
Not sure what you are implying. . .
Is it not Paul who makes that point most emphatically in Galatians 1:6-9?
Good for Calvin. . .because it is also a Pauline trait. . .and he was here long before Calvin.
Please don't tell me I am hearing an implication here that it is Calvin, rather than Paul, who condemns more than one gospel. . .please, no!
Here is the Biblical Demonstration.Ad hominem. . . in lieu of a Biblical demonstration?
If sin is not imputed before the law was given why did Adam die? And why did Adam and Eve hide behind the rock when they heard the Lord walking in the garden? Because their conscience convicted them of their sin/transgression against the Lord because He had told them not to eat of the tree of knowledge, is this not true? And did they not die because of their transgression? Thus passed on the sinful nature to all that followed. As in Adam, all died.Romans 5:13-14 by implication confirms there is no inherited sin because it says that some committed sin like Adams sin indicating that some did not. Along with no mention of inherited sin Paul says that sin was not imputed before the law was given.
If sin is not imputed before the law was given why did Adam die? And why did Adam and Eve hide behind the rock when they heard the Lord walking in the garden? Because their conscience convicted them of their sin/transgression against the Lord because He had told them not to eat of the tree of knowledge, is this not true? And did they not die because of their transgression? Thus passed on the sinful nature to all that followed. As in Adam, all died.
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