What is Truth?

[BellaVoce7]

This year God has led me and my two best friends to start a young adult ministry in our church. The need to reach out to our local college age students was pertinent. Me and my friends are 25, 26, and 27 years old so we are quite young ourselves. We have had difficulty finding an older leader to help us spiritually in this ministry so we have relied on God to lead us through getting this started. We have done well and have a few consistent members, praise God. Recently we had a new man come in and was put into our class. He has been a tad overbearing and grasping for a leadership role in our group. We are very thankful and blessed for him, but now it has come to the point of a situation that me and my friends don't know what to do or who to go to in our church. I need some help spiritually to make sure before I say anything that it is Biblically sound and is prayed over. Opinions are greatly appreciated in this matter, but I would love some scripture and specific examples of how to handle this situation in a way that glorifies God, even if that means I am in the wrong.

Wednesday night this new guy that we will call John calls me at 5:30, an hour before Bible Study. I did not have the best service so the call was dropped multiple times. We never got past hello. I texted him explaining that the service was spotty but if everything was okay. I got a response at 6 saying he was bringing some new people to Bible study if we could find them a ride home. I didn't hesitate in asking where they lived, but I never got a response until he showed up with this couple. I asked John where they lived and he said the couple was 44 and 29 and lived in a bad part of town, which happens to be known for drugs and shootings, 30 minutes outside of city limits, and has zero service. Me and my two friends tried to explain to John that we felt uncomfortable taking them that far without knowing them, them being older than us, and living farther out in a bad area. He was upset that we weren't willing to get out of our comfort zones to help these people. I then asked why he couldn't take them home and he replied he had choir practice, which was over by the time we were done with class. He then started preaching to us how we weren't being loving Christians and were judgmental towards these good people who were just in a rough spot. I tried to explain to John that I was not trying to be judgmental and of course they were welcome back anytime, but we three young ladies did not feel comfortable taking them to a place that makes us vulnerable and in danger. I tried to also explain that I was going to go to the deacons and see I can find an older man in our church who would drive them home and he became upset so I just dropped it and apologized for making him feel the way he feels. I feel like we are facing Satan head on in starting this ministry and I just need some spiritual guidance and encouragement. God bless!

 

[Southernscotty]

Hello Bella, Welcome to CF and I will pray about your situation :]

 

[akaDaScribe]

This year God has led me and my two best friends to start a young adult ministry in our church. The need to reach out to our local college age students was pertinent. Me and my friends are 25, 26, and 27 years old so we are quite young ourselves. We have had difficulty finding an older leader to help us spiritually in this ministry so we have relied on God to lead us through getting this started. We have done well and have a few consistent members, praise God. Recently we had a new man come in and was put into our class. He has been a tad overbearing and grasping for a leadership role in our group. We are very thankful and blessed for him, but now it has come to the point of a situation that me and my friends don't know what to do or who to go to in our church. I need some help spiritually to make sure before I say anything that it is Biblically sound and is prayed over. Opinions are greatly appreciated in this matter, but I would love some scripture and specific examples of how to handle this situation in a way that glorifies God, even if that means I am in the wrong.

Wednesday night this new guy that we will call John calls me at 5:30, an hour before Bible Study. I did not have the best service so the call was dropped multiple times. We never got past hello. I texted him explaining that the service was spotty but if everything was okay. I got a response at 6 saying he was bringing some new people to Bible study if we could find them a ride home. I didn't hesitate in asking where they lived, but I never got a response until he showed up with this couple. I asked John where they lived and he said the couple was 44 and 29 and lived in a bad part of town, which happens to be known for drugs and shootings, 30 minutes outside of city limits, and has zero service. Me and my two friends tried to explain to John that we felt uncomfortable taking them that far without knowing them, them being older than us, and living farther out in a bad area. He was upset that we weren't willing to get out of our comfort zones to help these people. I then asked why he couldn't take them home and he replied he had choir practice, which was over by the time we were done with class. He then started preaching to us how we weren't being loving Christians and were judgmental towards these good people who were just in a rough spot. I tried to explain to John that I was not trying to be judgmental and of course they were welcome back anytime, but we three young ladies did not feel comfortable taking them to a place that makes us vulnerable and in danger. I tried to also explain that I was going to go to the deacons and see I can find an older man in our church who would drive them home and he became upset so I just dropped it and apologized for making him feel the way he feels. I feel like we are facing Satan head on in starting this ministry and I just need some spiritual guidance and encouragement. God bless!

Is John new to your group, but not new to the church, or new to both?

Is John older than you guys?

Does John have any good qualities or strengths that you can perceive?

 

[Halbhh]

This year God has led me and my two best friends to start a young adult ministry in our church. The need to reach out to our local college age students was pertinent. Me and my friends are 25, 26, and 27 years old so we are quite young ourselves. We have had difficulty finding an older leader to help us spiritually in this ministry so we have relied on God to lead us through getting this started. We have done well and have a few consistent members, praise God. Recently we had a new man come in and was put into our class. He has been a tad overbearing and grasping for a leadership role in our group. We are very thankful and blessed for him, but now it has come to the point of a situation that me and my friends don't know what to do or who to go to in our church. I need some help spiritually to make sure before I say anything that it is Biblically sound and is prayed over. Opinions are greatly appreciated in this matter, but I would love some scripture and specific examples of how to handle this situation in a way that glorifies God, even if that means I am in the wrong.

Wednesday night this new guy that we will call John calls me at 5:30, an hour before Bible Study. I did not have the best service so the call was dropped multiple times. We never got past hello. I texted him explaining that the service was spotty but if everything was okay. I got a response at 6 saying he was bringing some new people to Bible study if we could find them a ride home. I didn't hesitate in asking where they lived, but I never got a response until he showed up with this couple. I asked John where they lived and he said the couple was 44 and 29 and lived in a bad part of town, which happens to be known for drugs and shootings, 30 minutes outside of city limits, and has zero service. Me and my two friends tried to explain to John that we felt uncomfortable taking them that far without knowing them, them being older than us, and living farther out in a bad area. He was upset that we weren't willing to get out of our comfort zones to help these people. I then asked why he couldn't take them home and he replied he had choir practice, which was over by the time we were done with class. He then started preaching to us how we weren't being loving Christians and were judgmental towards these good people who were just in a rough spot. I tried to explain to John that I was not trying to be judgmental and of course they were welcome back anytime, but we three young ladies did not feel comfortable taking them to a place that makes us vulnerable and in danger. I tried to also explain that I was going to go to the deacons and see I can find an older man in our church who would drive them home and he became upset so I just dropped it and apologized for making him feel the way he feels. I feel like we are facing Satan head on in starting this ministry and I just need some spiritual guidance and encouragement. God bless!

Prayer is powerful. With faith, we can ask our Father in Jesus's name for things that align to God's will and totally believe those things will be given to us. (But, sometimes people can have challenge really believing as they pray, and because our Lord told us we must believe as we pray (Mark chapter 11), and also gave us a crucial prayer in Matthew chapter 6, it's good to realize this perfect prayer He gave us to pray includes key things, even to be delivered from evil. So, while this prayer is good for 100% of us believers to pray, it's very helpful also for those that need a boost to faith in their prayer -- we can look up this prayer Christ told us to pray, in Matthew 6, and have total faith as we pray it that it is perfectly in accord with God's will, and that it will be given to us! Praise the Lord!)

Our Father cares about you.

You can believe it that He has your best in mind.

Now, it could be any sort of outcome later. As you feel led, it could be you say somethings, in a kind way, or it could be something else, like an older believer joins you and helps, or that you end up saying you are going to form a women's group, or any of many other possible paths, as you feel led. But believe! Believe in Him Who is your salvation!

 

[Southernscotty]

I must say that as a man of God, I would not be comfortable asking young ladies to go somewhere bad like that. I hope that you will instill a protocol from now on with your deacon or other males from your church and have something in place next time this arises. As for John, We all have had that person in our class lol. Pray for him and when you can't stand it no more, then pray for him so more :]

 

[BellaVoce7]

He is new to both our church and group. He is about 8 years older than me, the oldest of the three women leaders. He is very bold with his faith and strives to say and do the best to glorify God. He just has an issue of not thinking of others whom he works with.

 

[BellaVoce7]

He is new to both our church and group. He is about 8 years older than me, the oldest of the three women leaders. He is very bold with his faith and strives to say and do the best to glorify God. He just has an issue of not thinking of others whom he works with.

 

[Bobber]

Simple Bell....You were right! The answer should be no! First of all so what if you were concerned and had a measure of fear to go into this area. If you feel that way he shouldn't have tried to marginalize your concerns. Look you're a young person (from my age you are) and you've got your whole life ahead of you...No need to mess it up for any thoughts of that individual. If something happened to you what would he have then said..."Oh I guess maybe I shouldn't have encouraged her to go in that area." Thanks Bud too late then and he's not the one paying the price! Actually if I were your father and you told me that I'd phone that guy up myself and tell him straight don't you ever advise my daughter to do anything like that again! If she doesn't want to do it she doesn't want to do it PERIOD!