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Martyrs44

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Last year a crop duster flew over our property here in town while I was at my desk in my office. I had never seen even one fly over in 27 yrs. But the next time it buzzed over I decided to get a picture of it. So I ran out my back door and took a couple pictures of it as it was moving away from the edge of town but still within my view. Well, I got the crop duster all right but I got more than I bargained for. Take a look and tell me what you think:

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I could not see those little colored lights with the naked eye because of the sun glare. BUT...I took another snap about 5 seconds later and got this:

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And here is a super close-up of the same thing:

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Surprised at what showed up in both pictures I decided to measure things to see if those lighted orb-like things were following that crop duster. Using the corner of the rooftop as my reference point the distance between the corner and both the lights and the crop duster changed nearly 10 mm but they stayed parallel with each other as the plane moved on away from town. So there is no question they were following the crop duster. Strange, I'm no UFO nut, don't believe in little green men, and I wasn't even looking for UFO's. It just sort of 'came out in the wash.'

There is a bit of camera lens flare in the upper right of each photo caused by the sunlight but what are those other two lights? What do you think, folks?

P.S.Last year was my first time (I was 60 then) I've ever gotten a picture of what might be a UFO, but it wasn't my last. I'll post a couple others next.
 
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A few months later and still during the warm season here I noticed that the night sky was spectacular with the moon coming in-and-out of view from behind the moving clouds so I decided to get a few photos.

Here was the first one:

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Everything normal looking...but a few moments later the next picture revealed this:

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Spooky, huh? There was no plane flying over this time. And it just so happened that the same week I came across similar thing on video taken by some guy from England who saw such things crossing the path of the moon:

redorbinEngland.jpg


Then after it passed over the path of the moon:

redorbafterpassingthemoon-1.jpg


He didn't know what it was. Well, what do you think fellow viewers?
 
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Maybe the plane is spaying stuff on the plants. Also when I was a kids we would take some big clear bag, put paper towels and lard on the metal hanger, and attach it on the bag and it would fly away. So who knows what it could be.
 
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Maybe the plane is spaying stuff on the plants. Also when I was a kids we would take some big clear bag, put paper towels and lard on the metal hanger, and attach it on the bag and it would fly away. So who knows what it could be.

Thanks for your reply.

That's a cute kid.:)
 
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Nothing more than lens flare from shooting into the sun. Their "movement" is due to your tracking of the aircraft as well.

Same with the other picture. If you're shooting at intense light sources with a dark background, such as traffic lights, headlights, landing lights, etc, you'll get funny reflections and refractions. I have dozens of images of aircraft landing overhead where you can see funny green-colored "blobs" that are reflections of the landing lights from within the lens.
 
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Nothing more than lens flare from shooting into the sun. Their "movement" is due to your tracking of the aircraft as well.

Same with the other picture. If you're shooting at intense light sources with a dark background, such as traffic lights, headlights, landing lights, etc, you'll get funny reflections and refractions. I have dozens of images of aircraft landing overhead where you can see funny green-colored "blobs" that are reflections of the landing lights from within the lens.

No, I know what lens flare is and the tiny lights don't qualify. Here is why:

Lens flare #1 compared with my enlargement photo:

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Notice that there are no streaks nor rays of light running through the blue and white orbs. Compare those little lights with known lens flares:
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And the lights in my photo are not transparent as most of the others among the known lens flares.

Not only so but the angle of the suns rays does not comport with the angle of the two lights when a straight line is drawn through them. I have seen a lot of lens flare lights before but none like this.

Thank you for your opinion.
 
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Others have seen things very similar to what I posted in the OP.

This from Cheyenne Mt. in Colorado:

UFOsCheyenneMtColorado.jpg


We can't possibly chalk this one up to 'lens flare' because (1) it was totally overcast that day and (2) it was video recorded and the lights moved and they appeared out of nowhere and vanished several times.

UFO Formation over Cheyenne Mountain Colorado June 4 2012 - YouTube#!

Turn the volume down if you wish to avoid the foul language.
 
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A nice clue that the OP's lights are lens flare is the fact that the two spots are in line with the direction to the bright light source in each photo. A pair of dots like that is hardly an unusual presentation of lens flare. Here's a picture I took a couple of weeks ago on vacation:


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Note the two dots in the middle of the field; the only difference with this photo is that the dots happen to occur in front of a field, rather than in the sky, so it's more obvious that they're not distant, illuminated objects. Here are the dots blown up a bit:

DSC_9837_mini

Nothing spooky going on here.
 
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Others have seen things very similar to what I posted in the OP.

This from Cheyenne Mt. in Colorado:

UFOsCheyenneMtColorado.jpg


We can't possibly chalk this one up to 'lens flare' because (1) it was totally overcast that day and (2) it was video recorded and the lights moved and they appeared out of nowhere and vanished several times.


Turn the volume down if you wish to avoid the foul language.

This has nothing to do with photography. You're right, they are not lens flares this time. They are either aircraft in the distance with their landing lights on, or Chinese lanterns. I live 45 miles from SeaTac airport and on many nights I can see almost a dozen planes lined up.

There may be another board to share UFO theories with.
 
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A nice clue that the OP's lights are lens flare is the fact that the two spots are in line with the direction to the bright light source in each photo. A pair of dots like that is hardly an unusual presentation of lens flare. Here's a picture I took a couple of weeks ago on vacation:


DSC_9837

Note the two dots in the middle of the field; the only difference with this photo is that the dots happen to occur in front of a field, rather than in the sky, so it's more obvious that they're not distant, illuminated objects. Here are the dots blown up a bit:

DSC_9837_mini

Nothing spooky going on here.

1. Perhaps they are examples of lens flare but you need to prove that and not just tell us so.

2. Why did you ignore my above detailed explanations that the pictures I took were not lens flare? I provided several comparison pictures and the line of sight in my first two pics as compared to the position of the sun does not match.

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Here one can easily see by careful measurement that the orbs do not line up with any part of the suns rays.The light in each of them stand on their own merit. The lights in your picture are very close together and of the same color. Mine were different colors:
bluesupercloseup.jpg


3. Why did you ignore the other pictures I took (off the same property) at night as compared with those which were taken in England revealing much the same thing? Those are the ones I mentioned off-handedly as 'spooky'.
redorbs-1.jpg

redorbinEngland.jpg


4. What I haven't told the readers yet is that there was another spectator to this phenomena on the property at the same time and she saw the two orbs up close ten seconds earlier when they were directly overhead and they were (1) definitely not lens flare, and (2) they were following the cropduster.

Will you attribute this to lens flare also? But don't forget that I posted another picture of the same night sky just seconds before this and the two red orbs were not in the picture.

Anyway, thanks for your input.
 
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This has nothing to do with photography. You're right, they are not lens flares this time. They are either aircraft in the distance with their landing lights on, or Chinese lanterns. I live 45 miles from SeaTac airport and on many nights I can see almost a dozen planes lined up.

There may be another board to share UFO theories with.

What? I believe they qualify as photographs.

Do those jets give off different flame colors and do they vanish from one location and suddenly reappear in another spontaneously? You might watch the video clip again for they were cearly not Chinese lamps...not several hundreds feet off the ground anyway.

This was not a UFO 'theory'. I said it to begin with: I don't believe in flying saucers nor little green men. Just asking opinions about the phenomena.

Have a nice day.
 
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Two of us have explained it to you and you clearly don't want to accept it. This is how every single one of these conversations go. The person has an excuse to reject every reasonable response and the final conclusion inevitably 'has' to be something mysterious.
That is why I asked you to take this to another forum here. It has nothing to do with photography

If you reject everything we've said, and you do not think these are UFO's, then what do YOU think they are?
 
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Two of us have explained it to you and you clearly don't want to accept it. This is how every single one of these conversations go. The person has an excuse to reject every reasonable response and the final conclusion inevitably 'has' to be something mysterious.
That is why I asked you to take this to another forum here. It has nothing to do with photography

If you reject everything we've said, and you do not think these are UFO's, then what do YOU think they are?

And I explained to you in great detail why I felt those 'explanations' are wrong.

Let's let the moderators decide if my photos belong in another category.

This is just for fun, but if you aren't enjoying it then you are by no means obligated to view the pictures.

Have a nice day.
 
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