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What is the Truth
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shturt678
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just my opinion ... from the Biblical perspective, "Truth" is an abstract term yet an objective reality, subjectively appropriated ... sounds like i know something ... lol, please forgive me, i'm just a run of the bunch retired school teacher ... laying this down as a very important topic and need a core-base to build our framework upon, right? thank u ... Truth: the reality of God's will, purpose, and plan centered in the Lord Christ Jesus, for our salvation including the threats, judgments (including preliminary judgments that church leaders don't like to preach, sadly), and the saving promises embodied in the Word of God, again, centered in the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus is the actual embodiment of the Truth, passage i like, Jn.14:6 of course. open for refute at any point and have something can prove or disprove helping me ... my view only.
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The truth is Jesus Christ Made flesh and his Gospel. What Gospel? He gave peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven in matt. What was Peters message. Acts 2:38 Repent of your sins and be baptised in Jesus Name and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost. This is truth and the message. To love your neighbor as yourself.
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That was the philosophical question that Pilate asked Jesus.
Jesus said...in His High Priestly prayer! John 17:17:
17 Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.
Truth is according to God's word. You tell it like it is...pure, unadulterated, with no deception, or motives behind it other than what is is.
Jesus said...in His High Priestly prayer! John 17:17:
17 Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.
Truth is according to God's word. You tell it like it is...pure, unadulterated, with no deception, or motives behind it other than what is is.
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Truth is of such great importance that i think we need to break it down a little more, although i'm in agreement with you ebedmelech. I see you like Jn.17:17, mine favorite passage is Jn.14:6, anyway have to break out the ol' Interlinears:
Truth: no article, meaning Truth more in general: The reality of God's will, purpose, and plan centered in Christ Jesus, for our salvation including the THREATS, JUDGMENTS (including preliminary), and the saving promises embodied int he word of God in Truth. The Truth: article, meaning the ENTIRE SAVING REALITIES conveyed by the Word of God in Truth centered in the Lord Christ Jesus, God-man that is. Your already aware that Jesus is the actual embodiment of the Truth, but let an ol' man bring this forth again, as music to my ears. Thank you for your patience and all the former refutable and correctable of course, IITim.3:16.
Truth: no article, meaning Truth more in general: The reality of God's will, purpose, and plan centered in Christ Jesus, for our salvation including the THREATS, JUDGMENTS (including preliminary), and the saving promises embodied int he word of God in Truth. The Truth: article, meaning the ENTIRE SAVING REALITIES conveyed by the Word of God in Truth centered in the Lord Christ Jesus, God-man that is. Your already aware that Jesus is the actual embodiment of the Truth, but let an ol' man bring this forth again, as music to my ears. Thank you for your patience and all the former refutable and correctable of course, IITim.3:16.
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I would agree. We have to see "truth" in it's categories:
There is "spiritual truth" - That would be truth according to God's word and how it relates to us in our lives.
There's truth from the secular viewpoint as Webster defines in this link:
Truth - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
That would be my perspective. I reject "relative truth", which is prominent in society today.
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If you can measure God, you can measure truth and in the process we become measured, being a son/daughter/offspring/children of our father.
Truth, as one fellow put it, is a train without a caboose.
Truth, as one fellow put it, is a train without a caboose.
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Wow, "organized Church" ... struck a cord ... diverse at that ... each having their own belief (statement of faith) and their own form of worship (not so diverse), which is healthy, i guess, but where i find most striking when questioned, each know 100% that they have the one genuine belief, where the others are o.k. ... it's just they have it ... don't get me wrong, as i do feel we are all Christians ... but where is the truth??? Good job ebedmelach and x141, not that i'm condescending, just an ol' retired simple school teacher and how my ol' mind works with dementia setting in and all the rest of ol' age.
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the name of Jesus in english gematria adds up to 515
I will never know what truth is but I will always delight in God
this reminds me of Christ death on the cross.
the cross is the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NICjkkDWdcs
I will never know what truth is but I will always delight in God
this reminds me of Christ death on the cross.
the cross is the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NICjkkDWdcs
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The absence of the lie, or the labor to be, which is the other gospel.
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We always have to keep in mind, that as saints, we're operating on earth as "strangers and pilgrims"...so even though we're "in society" we think and operate from God's perspective...not the world...therefore it makes no difference because we are of God.
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