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What is the Tribulation is from 2050-2057 A.D.?

MithrandirOlorin888

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If you take Ussher's Creation date and correct him only on the 60 year discrepancy on when in Terah's life Abraham was born, Tishri of 2057 marks the begging of the 6001st year of History.

Meanwhile J.R. Church had his Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms theory, centered on the fact that Psalm 48 could be viewed as a Prophecy of Israel's restoration in 1948. But he stopped viewimg them are correlaitng to year with Book 5 (Psalm 107 and up) because he didn't want the end to be that far off. I was born in 85 however, so I could easily live to see a Mid-Trib Rapture in 2054. With 150 Psalms, that puts the Period the Psalms document as ending right when the Tribulation begins in 2050.

My Understanding of Daniel 9:27 is rare but not unique to me, in that I view the 7 Years that the evil Prince enforces the Covenant as not being the 70th week but as a different 7 year period that overlaps with it, a counterfeit Tribulation of sorts.

"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

The word translated "Confirm" means enforce, he's clearly NOT enforcing it for 7 years if he brakes it after only 3 and a Half. Revelation 11 has The Temple there already when the Tribulation starts, I think the prior 3 and a Half years will be it's Construction period. Spring of 2047 would be a Centennial of many events.

I'm not sure if I view the 40 years Ezekiel predicts Egypt to be unhabited as yet future or not. Usher believed this happened from 571-531 B.C. but his documentation for it is iffy. It's not impossible this 40 years carries int the Millennium, the Millennium is fully restored perfection yet. But it would seem odd. So it's possible that within the next 6 months, to in Fall of 2017 (not not likely in-between) The Aswan Damn will be Nuked and thus Egypt rendered uninhabitable.

Perhaps the Man of Sin was born in 2005 in Jordan, to a father named Abdullah and a Palestinian Mother?
 
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Mithrandir,
it does overlap it. They happened in the mid 1st century. If you look around you will find several commentators referring to the double entendre of the paragraph. It has an odd way of referring to Christ and AC at the same time.

For ex., the verb "confirm." This can be Christ's fulfilling the covenant (the new one), or AC's "making it harsh" which is a pretty good description of zealot Judaism, by all accounts, with their Sabbath police etc (Mt 24:20).

Likewise many of the antecedents in the paragraph about the tumultuous week. Christ's gospel is the first half (atonement for sin, being cut off for others), and the war is the 2nd half. They stand at either end of the last generation of Israel as they knew it.

Mt24A is about 1st century Judaism and there are no Judaic details about the return of Christ or the day of judgement.
 
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If you take Assher's Creation date and correct him only on the 60 year discrepancy on when in Terah's life Abraham was born, Tishri of 2057 marks the begging of the 6001st year of History.

Meanwhile J.R. Church had his Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms theory, centered on the fact that Psalm 48 could be viewed as a Prophecy of Israel's restoration in 1948. But he stopped viewimg them are correlaitng to year with Book 5 (Psalm 107 and up) because he didn't want the end to be that far off. I was born in 85 however, so I could easily live to see a Mid-Trib Rapture in 2054. With 150 Psalms, that puts the Period the Psalms document as ending right when the Tribulation begins in 2050.

My Understanding of Daniel 9:27 is rare but not unique to me, in that I view the 7 Years that the evil Prince enforces the Covenant as not being the 70th week but as a different 7 year period that overlaps with it, a counterfeit Tribulation of sorts.

"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

The word translated "Confirm" means enforce, he's clearly NOT enforcing it for 7 years if he brakes it after only 3 and a Half. Revelation 11 has The Temple there already when the Tribulation starts, I think the prior 3 and a Half years will be it's Construction period. Spring of 2047 would be a Centennial of many events.

I'm not sure if I view the 40 years Ezekiel predicts Egypt to be unhabited as yet future or not. Usher believed this happened from 571-531 B.C. but his documentation for it is iffy. It's not impossible this 40 years carries int the Millennium, the Millennium is fully restored perfection yet. But it would seem odd. So it's possible that within the next 6 months, to in Fall of 2017 (not not likely in-between) The Aswan Damn will be Nuked and thus Egypt rendered uninhabitable.

Perhaps the Man of Sin was born in 2005 in Jordan, to a father named Abdullah and a Palestinian Mother?
Perhaps, this is nonsense.
 
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[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] I can't edit the title.

I don't even entertain Preterist interpretation, the Preterist and AMillennial view requires a denial of the Literal Resurrection.
 
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Up to Verse 14 he's describing condition that apply to the Entire Church Age, that's why their really Non Signs. We are NOT in the time being addressed undtil soemone repeat exactly what Antiochus Epiphanes did, commits an act of idolatry in the Holy of Holies of The Temple. Caligula didn't get to follow his through, and in 70 AD it was destroyed before anyhitng could happen. And no Hadrian and Muslims building temples over the site don't count.
 
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No, the AofD does not have to be an exact replication and I don't think that's the problem in the time of the zealots. The problem when they come is that they themselves are about as far off the Gospel you can get and still be in Judaism.

The details in Luke about why Israel would self-destruct are clear enough: that the movement itself using the temple was the AofD. They had made it a den of 'leistes' which means terrorists or insurrectionists. It wasn't about an idol that some other party put up that impunes Israel. It is the rancidity of their life in the Law.

(note on PASSION OF THE CHRIST. I don't know why it would be suggested that Caiaphas might start a rebellion, when he thought the reason for sacrificing Jesus was to pacify Rome that he had the population under control.)
 
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Luke's Olivite Discourse is not the same, that's part of what confused people he is talking about 70 A.D. Luke dens't refer to the Abomination of Desolation, the word Abomination always refers to idolatry, that fact helps clarify many issues I can't get into here.

Preterists have gotten to express how they feel about my theory, I respect that, now I want to know what Fellow Futurists think of my hypothesis?
 
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Luke's Olivite Discourse is not the same, that's part of what confused people he is talking about 70 A.D. Luke dens't refer to the Abomination of Desolation, the word Abomination always refers to idolatry, that fact helps clarify many issues I can't get into here.

Preterists have gotten to express how they feel about my theory, I respect that, now I want to know what Fellow Futurists think of my hypothesis?
I am NOT a Preterist - far from it. Let's see what other say.
 
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the unique thing about the AofD in this case, is that Dan 8 starts by calling it the 'rebellion that desolates.' This opens the possibilities for Dan 9. so your theory is off. Then, when Paul builds on these themes in Thess, it's the man of sin, assuming that's the same guy, a leader of a rebellion. Since Paul is talking about the events coming in Judea shortly ("the wrath of God has come"), we have closed in quite a bit on the person. Notice that the translations prefer 'standing where he should not be', not 'it.'

It did coincide with Rome arriving (see Luke 21) because a leader of a rebellion was inevitably going to attract Rome.
 
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You can try to overlook that time period, but you have to answer: how do you jump to the future, when they were looking at a temple, just told it was to be desolated, asked about that, and he said the guy that would desolate it would come and be the signal for them to escape Jerusalem.

Do you really need more specifics than that to say Jesus was talking about that?
 
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You are not promised a tomorrow, so we should all be ready today to face our maker. You could get sick and die, have a heart attack or get hit by a car and stand before him today. So, regardless of the date setting be ready today.
 
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