What is the sort of wine - or the sorts of wine - that you like most?

[Red Gold]

What is the sort of wine - or the sorts of wine - that you like most?

With me the answer changes.
Right now I like rosé wines best.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Don't drink.

 

[Red Gold]

Don't drink.

In other words: You do not drink anything?
Or you are of the insulting opinion, that everybody who likes wine is a "drinker" = an alcoholic?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

In other words: You do not drink anything?
Or you are of the insulting opinion, that everybody who likes wine is a "drinker" = an alcoholic?

My mother died an alcoholic when I was a child. As a motherless child, I vowed never to drink. I hope that does not offend you. But it is the truth.

 

[Red Gold]

I was referring purely to the word "drink".
As meaning "drink alcohol".
I know that alcohol may have a lot of bad effects.

 

[Red Gold]

My mother died an alcoholic when I was a child.

I am sorry to hear that.

 

[Larniavc]

What is the sort of wine - or the sorts of wine - that you like most?

With me the answer changes.
Right now I like rosé wines best.

A peppery Shiraz.

 

[Red Gold]

A peppery Shiraz.

Shiraz I like as well.
But it is rare in our region.

Here it is mostly:

Red: Spätburgunder = Pinot Noir, Trollinger etc ....
White: Riesling, Gewürztraminer etc ....

 

[trophy33]

Alcohol is good for disinfection, it may help with some very specific stomach problems.

Other than that, it acts as a poison in our body. So, regular drinking is a no-no. If we are talking about some twice a year celebration, then bio red sweet wine from Greece, Australia, California or Spain are my preference.

 

[Red Gold]

Other than that, it acts as a poison in our body.

To that I answer with an old wisdom:

"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison!
Only the quantity makes that a thing is not poisonous."

 

[Red Gold]

May I quote Paracelsus:

"The dose makes the poison" (Latin: dosis sola facit venenum 'only the dose makes the poison') is an adage intended to indicate a basic principle of toxicology. It is credited to Paracelsus who expressed the classic toxicology maxim "All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison." This is often condensed to: "The dose makes the poison" or in Latin, "Sola dosis facit venenum". It means that a substance can produce the harmful effect associated with its toxic properties only if it reaches a susceptible biological system within the body in a high enough concentration (i.e., dose).[2]

The principle relies on the finding that all chemicals—even water and oxygen—can be toxic if too much is eaten, drunk, or absorbed. "The toxicity of any particular chemical depends on many factors, including the extent to which it enters an individual’s body."[3] This finding also provides the basis for public health standards, which specify maximum acceptable concentrations of various contaminants in food, public drinking water, and the environment.

The dose makes the poison - Wikipedia

 

[Red Gold]

@ Paracelsus

Paracelsus (/ˌpærəˈsɛlsəs/; German: [paʁaˈtsɛlzʊs]; c. 1493[1] – 24 September 1541), born Theophrastus von Hohenheim (full name Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim[11][12]), was a Swiss[13] physician, alchemist, lay theologian, and philosopher of the German Renaissance.[14][15]

He was a pioneer in several aspects of the "medical revolution" of the Renaissance, emphasizing the value of observation in combination with received wisdom. He is credited as the "father of toxicology".[16] Paracelsus also had a substantial impact as a prophet or diviner, his "Prognostications" being studied by Rosicrucians in the 1600s. Paracelsianism is the early modern medical movement inspired by the study of his works.[17]

Paracelsus - Wikipedia

 

[trophy33]

To that I answer with an old wisdom:

"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison!
Only the quantity makes that a thing is not poisonous."

Sure, even water can be a poison if you will drink too much.

But alcohol is poisonous in our body in any quantity. Thats why it really is a standard poison. I will repeat again that its a highly effective disinfectant. It kills almost anything.
Drinking any amount of alcohol causes damage to the brain, study finds - CNN
There is no such thing as a safe level of alcohol consumption | Professor David Nutt

 

[Red Gold]

Alcohol may also have beneficial effects.

But - let's not quarrel - let's talk about wine.

As Jesus also liked wine, it cannot be all that bad.

 

[trophy33]

Alcohol may also have beneficial effects.

But - let's not quarrel - let's talk about wine.

As Jesus also liked wine, it cannot be all that bad.

If you drink a small amount of wine few times a year, your body can regenerate like Wolverine from the damage done, if you otherwise live and eat healthy, do regular fasts etc.

If you drink it regularly, your body cannot regenerate and is going down. Jesus drank it only few times, as a part of significant events.

 

[Red Gold]

Peace, please ....

 

[trophy33]

Peace, please ....

Different opinions or giving facts are not a war. Its nothing personal.

 

[Red Gold]

There comes a time when all this said and done.
No use to go on arguing for all eternity.

I have opened this thread with the topic: "Which wine do you like?"
Not with the topic: "How terribly terrible is wine?"
Sorry about that.

Somebody else may open another thread with that topic: "How terribly terrible is wine?"

 

[Red Gold]

This is a big and great forum and I hope that besides me and Larnievc there are also other friends of good wine and we two are not alone.

 

[deanerenata32]

I come from a non-drinking family and I've never tasted wine in my life, and I'm not about to do it now.

In the Bible I think in Proverbs it discourages people from drinking.

Pro 23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

My parents were of the belief that you can't be a true Christian and drink at the same time. That's what the world does and we are not to follow the world, we are to be holy in all things.