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I agree that the vision was primarily to lead Peter to preach to the Gentiles. Nevertheless, God did not tell a lie to get his point across.Actually John, nowhere in Acts 10 does it say unclean foods are now permitted. Here let's look at the detail and add the contexts back in.
No God does not lie John and God did not tell Peter that it was ok to eat unclean foods as you have tried to argue. God gave Peter the interpretation of the dream and told him not to consider Gentile believers unclean and this was the interpretation Peter got from His dream that God gave to him as shown in the scriptures.I agree that the vision was primarily to lead Peter to preach to the Gentiles. Nevertheless, God did not tell a lie to get his point across.
The scripture is very clear - you have to be religiously indoctrinated not to see it. This damages your credibility.No God does not lie and God did not tell Peter that it was ok to eat unclean foods as you have tried to argue. God gave Peter the interpretation of the dream and told him not to consider Gentile believers unclean and this was the interpretation Peter got from His dream that God gave to him as shown in the scriptures.
Not really John, I have only shared God's Word with you showing why I believe your claims are not true by showing scripture contexts that perhaps you may not have considered. This was only done out of love and friendship and as a help to our discussion nothing more. Of course you are free to believe as you wish and we will have to agree to disagree if your not able to address the posts and the scriptures that disagree with you here. Did you wish to discuss the OP now?The scripture is very clear - you have to be religiously indoctrinated not to see it. This damages your credibility.
Again re-read Acts 10 - this vision is in scripture. You are holding to an observation that is clearly contradicted. As you continue to opine against the details in Peter's trance that is in the Word of God and not contradicted, anything else you say is discredited.No God does not lie John and God did not tell Peter that it was ok to eat unclean foods as you have tried to argue.
John this has already been addressed in detail showing that the scripture context does not agree with your interpretation of Peter's vision in post # 40 linked. All you are doing here is repeating yourself without addressing anything in the linked post shared with you so I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Did you have anything you would like to share in regards to the OP?Again re-read Acts 10 - this vision is in scripture. You are holding to an observation that is clearly contradicted. As you continue to opine against Peter's trance that is in the Word of God, anything else you say is discredited.
John, I am more than happy to discuss Acts 10 further but until you show why you disagree with the scripture context provided in post # 40 linked that disagrees with you, I do not know why you disagree. This said I would prefer to discuss the OP here if that is ok. There is another thread on this subject here linked if your interested?Again re-read Acts 10
Are you really interested in Acts 10? Pointed question for you: Was the voice in Act1 10:15 from the Lord or not?
Luke 16:10: He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much.
Sure was. Did you ever notice that the Lord never mentioned cleansing the unclean only the common?Are you really interested in Acts 10? Pointed question for you: Was the voice in Act1 10:15 from the Lord or not?
Luke 16:10: He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much.
Acts 10:13 & Acts 10:15 prove that no foods in the NT are unclean. Acts 10:28 and later verses show that many OT restrictions are not in play. My point exactly! Peter was free to enter a Gentile's home.Yes it was a vision given by God. Here is a pointed question for you. What was the interpretation of the vision that God gave to Peter written in the scriptures in Acts of the Apostles 10:28?
The voice of the Lord said "Rise Peter kill and eat." There was no distinction as to which to eat: Common or Unclean! If only the common were "to eat", why are the unclean shown to Peter, just prior to "kill and eat"?Sure was. Did you ever notice that the Lord never mentioned cleansing the unclean only the common?
Here take a look. Please also take note of Peter's use of the word "or". This word makes a distinction between two things. Peter saw two types of creatures when he looked at the sheet. Common and unclean. And then as mention before. Our Lord only mentions cleansing the common . He never mentions cleansing the unclean.
Acts 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Acts 10:16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
Good evening LGW and happy Sabbath. Good thread.THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL OR ANOTHER GOSPEL WHICH DO YOU FOLLOW?
Hi Guys,
The other thread seemed to have disappeared because of a technicality. Anyhow this is an undated version with some new questions for consideration.
In God's Word the bible speaks of the everlasting Gospel in Revelation 14:6 as part of the three angels messages as the last message of warning given to the world before the second coming and warns us about receiving "another gospel" preaching another Jesus or a false gospel that is not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ (false teachings) in 2 Corinthians 11:4; Galatians 1:6-7; Acts of the Apostles 20:29.
I think this topic is an important one for us to understand as it is written in the very Words of Jesus, that in the last days there will be many false teachers seeking to lead God's people away from the truth of God's Word *Matthew 24:24; 2 Peter 2:1-3.
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QUESTIONS FOR THIS OP (I will link my answers to these question back here to the OP when answered)
Q1. What is the true gospel? (linked)
Q2. Why has God given us His grace for? (linked)
Q3. What is sin (linked)
Q4. Can we receive God's salvation and grace if we do not know what sin is?
Q5. Does God's law lead us to God's Grace if so how it not why not?
Q6. Can we have Gods' grace without God's law?
Q7. What is the purpose of God's law (10 commandments) in the new covenant?
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What do you think dear friends. Are you following the everlasting gospel and where is it leading you? What therefore is the "another gospel" and where can it lead us?
Friendly discussion please.
God bless
God said, "What I have cleansed call not common." No mention of the unclean only the common. We are not to assume or add what is not there my friend.The voice of the Lord said "Rise Peter kill and eat." There was no distinction as to which to eat: Common or Unclean! If only the common were "to eat", why are the unclean shown to Peter, just prior to "kill and eat"?
Where does it say Jesus declared all foods clean?For it doesn't go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)The topic isn’t one I’ve got much of an investment in, but I’m curious how people in the chat who are still open to the idea of dietary restrictions (as a commandment) would understand the above material. Mark 7:19 ^^^^ for quick reading.
Hopefully a novel or careful take on the verse/chapter, not something I could just google myself.
Where does it say Jesus declared all foods clean?
What is the subject that instigated the discourse in Mark 7?
Does context matter?
Not at all John. Entering a gentiles home and sharing the gospel is not saying all foods are now clean. The interpretation of the vision is given in Acts 10:28 to Peter where it is writtenActs 10:13 & Acts 10:15 prove that no foods in the NT are unclean. Acts 10:28 and later verses show that many OT restrictions are not in play. My point exactly! Peter was free to enter a Gentile's home.
Where?The texts says Jesus declared all foods clean.
Where?
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