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What is the origin of man?

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peace4ever

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Since scientists claim that evolution is a fact, not a fantasy, then please tell us the origin of man (common ancestor). Is it:

1) An ape
2) A monkey
3) A lizard
4) An amoeba
50 Aliens
6) An orangutang
7) A made-up animal
8) A cell
9) unknown

I guess it depends on each individual imagination. ;) Since Darwin didn't know his main characters (namely, the common ancestors) then he certainly can't know what kind of descendants they were capable of breeding and neither can anyone else. ^_^ So the story of evolution is as imaginary as "Lord Of The Rings." At least Tolken knew that the characters he conjured up in his imagination were fictional. But Darwin believed that the characters he can't even describe because he doesn't know them, were real. There can hardly be anything more delusional. :D
 

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There is no one common ancestor. Humans have many common ancestors with successive animal outgroups. If it's a particular common ancestor you're looking for, you need to state which animal outgroup you want to compare to. For example, we share a common amniote ancestor with lizards, which for all intents and purposes probably looked something like Casineria or a cotylosaur.
 
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There is no one common ancestor. Humans have many common ancestors with successive animal outgroups. If it's a particular common ancestor you're looking for, you need to state which animal outgroup you want to compare to. For example, we share a common amniote ancestor with lizards, which for all intents and purposes probably looked something like Casineria or a cotylosaur.

How do you know unless you know who they are?:scratch: Or are you just imagining what they'd have to be if your story is true? Again, that's no different than saying; "if humans came from dogs, then many half-dogs half-humans would have had to have produced them." ^_^ And again, the conclusion can only be as imaginary as the premise. ;)
 
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My thoughts exactly.
I just bought Noll's Scandal of the Evangelical Mind recently, but I'm waiting until after my PhD candidacy exam to read it. Looking forward to what kind of insight he has to offer.

You can be sure of one thing; his words will be fallible because he is not God. :wave:
 
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I know. That's why I need God and listen to him. You would be wise to do the same or all you'll get is fallibility from men who cannot save you and whose actions and words come to nothing when they die. :wave:
I see you've taken to judging the hearts of others now. Jolly good.
 
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I see you've taken to judging the hearts of others now. Jolly good.

You need to understand the difference between judgment and facts. If your faith is in people, not God, then it's a fact that all people will die and their words will die with them because no humans will be around to hear them. So their words will come to nothing.

So instead of personally attacking people, it would be wise for you to simply deal in facts. :)
 
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* (((I believe))) "God" made man-{Adam:which means "man"} in His image {spiritually -and how our "spirit" looks with "skin"} to live the beginnings of our lives here on Earth to test our "will" -(because of the fallen ones) and so we truly understand "LOVE"-{GOD}!!! : So we understand "His" will (unconditional Love) -and so we respect and honor the gift of "Life, Love, and Light" before we can be accepted to pass through the gates of the Kingdom of Heaven...(darkness and doubt, etc. cannot exist where "Light" is)!

* (And) - I believe that until one understands that we are all "one" - and all deserve to be treated equally under the laws of Love -then that soul will have to live many lives in this physical existence until they do.

* (Also) - I believe that "Adam" was not just "one" man - but many different "versions" of humans.
* I also believe that the story of Adam and Eve is referring to "all of" human-kind.*(Think about it)!

* I hope my views help in some way. My beliefs are derived from reading passages in the Bible and what the Holy Spirit explained them to mean (in my Heart).

* I hope that everyone reads the Good Book not only with their "eyes" - but also with their God-given "senses".

* Have a wonderful day!

---(I forgot to mention) * In the story of "Cain and Abel" - God put a mark on Cain so that "others" in other lands wouldn't harm him for his sin! ; so he would have to "think about" and "live with" his transgression, etc. *Who were the "others" that God didn't want to harm Cain.
*Proof right there in the first book of the Bible that "Adam" was "many"!!!

* (also) -When Cain moved to "another land" - he found a "wife"!!!

* (also) - I'd like to mention the fact that there are different "races" of human-kind. *I believe that we would all look alike (eyes, hair, etc.) if we all came from just "two people"!!!

* (also) I refuse to accept the view that we came from just two people - because that would mean that we are incestuous! Also, that kind of thinking doesn't coincide with laws in the Bible referring to sleeping with relatives, etc. If that kind of thing wasn't acceptable when those laws were given - then how could it have been acceptable thousand of years prior.

* (Also) -I just had a thought! : Why would God create a planet as large as this and only put two people on it to begin with!!!
 
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