What is the impact of Evolution on the doctrine of Salvation?

[Nando Ronteltap]

Nope, I would suggest that you Google search what a scientific theory is. Evolution is both a theory and a fact in the same way that gravity is both a theory and a fact.

No gravity is a theory, evolution is a catchall interpretative frame of reference. Interpreting what happen in terms of organisms changing.

 

[Nando Ronteltap]

Because the theory of evolution says nothing whatever about the existence of God one way or another, or about sin and our salvation in Christ. It contradicts no essential point of Christian doctrine.

The theory of evolution undermines subjectivity in general. It has a generally dehumanizing effect on people.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No gravity is a theory, evolution is a catchall interpretative frame of reference. Interpreting what happen in terms of organisms changing.

The theory of evolution is a scientific theory as well. Don't allow the Kent Hovinds of the world screw up your science for you.

 

[Belk]

You said it yourself, and you still don't get it.

A Christian does not have to prove the Theory of Evolution is false, it is False by the use it's own declaration, "I am a Theory of Evolution"

THEORY:
A proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to doubt, requiring more study.

Abstract knowledge or reasoning a speculative or conjectural view or idea.

A set of hypotheses related by logical arguments to explain ones beliefs.

IDIOMS:
In theory , ideally; hypothetically:

Word Origin:
1590s, "conception, mental scheme,"
from Late Latin theoria (Jerome),
from Greek theoria "contemplation, speculation, a looking at, things looked at,"
from theorein "to consider, speculate, look at,"
from theoros "spectator,"
from thea "a view" + horan "to see"

Every scientific theory is false now? From these kinds of declarations I'm supposed to conclude you have a higher understanding provided from an all knowing being?

 

[tas8831]

Psa. 14:1
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

I bet the cultists that died with Jim Jones felt that those not in their cult were fools, too.

 

[tas8831]

No gravity is a theory, evolution is a catchall interpretative frame of reference. Interpreting what happen in terms of organisms changing.

False.

 

[AV1611VET]

I bet the cultists that died with Jim Jones felt that those not in their cult were fools, too.

There were no atheists in his cult that I know of.

 

[JIMINZ]

I bet the cultists that died with Jim Jones felt that those not in their cult were fools, too.

You said it correctly, "They were Cultists" which denotes a deviant belief.

But even with all of that, there wasn't ever any denial of God or Christ, as you espouse, therefore it does not apply to them as it does to you.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You said it correctly, "They were Cultists" which denotes a deviant belief.

As opposed to a normal belief?

But even with all of that, there wasn't ever any denial of God or Christ, as you espouse, therefore it does not apply to them as it does to you.

You're defending the honor of those who drank the Kool-Aid... just sayin'

 

[JIMINZ]

As opposed to a normal belief?

You're defending the honor of those who drank the Kool-Aid... just sayin'

Yeah, sort of like an Atheist declaring he believes in God, that would be deviant behavior to you wouldn't it?

They really didn't have a choice in the matter, your making it sound as though they said, lets all drink Kool-Aid and kill ourselves for some religious purpose, when that wasn't the case at all, they were forced to drink it or they would have been shot.

 

[HitchSlap]

Do you feel as though you are merely a plaything molded from the dust?

God has said there are two places Heaven and Hell He has not forced you to believe in Him or them, He merely is giving you the information to make a logical well informed decision, it's exactly the same as God saying to Adam, "Don't eat from that tree, or you will die" was that a threat, or a warning?

God is informing all of mankind, (Including You) there are ramifications for your choices (Decisions).

It's totally your choice, He is not forcing you to chose one or the other, you are now expressing your opinion on the matter, there isn't and has not been any coercion from Him to force you to Believe, whereas He (God) is warning you, there are things in the future of every human which will depend on the decisions (Beliefs) they express today.

So, you have now been informed, there is a place called Hell, just as assuredly as there was a Tree in the Garden which caused death, God is not going to send you there, that is a decision you alone make.

There is no heaven or hell. All you need do is live an honorable life. There, now you've been informed.

You can thank me later.

 

[HitchSlap]

There were no atheists in his cult that I know of.

Correct, they were all biblebelievin' Christians, fulfilling their prophecy. Unfortunately, they'll never know how wrong they really were.

 

[AV1611VET]

All you need do is live an honorable life.

Does that include dying an honorable death?

 

[AV1611VET]

Correct, they were all biblebelievin' Christians, fulfilling their prophecy. Unfortunately, they'll never know how wrong they really were.

They should have though.

They should have known that there are no more prophets after AD 96.

They should have known:

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

But alas ... the tares! the tares!

 

[HitchSlap]

They should have though.

They should have known that there are no more prophets after AD 96.

They should have known:

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

But alas ... the tares! the tares!

They all died martyrs... True Christians.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yeah, sort of like an Atheist declaring he believes in God, that would be deviant behavior to you wouldn't it?

Deviant from what? It certainly wouldn't match the definition of "atheist," but that's not the same as "deviant."

They really didn't have a choice in the matter, your making it sound as though they said, lets all drink Kool-Aid and kill ourselves for some religious purpose, when that wasn't the case at all, they were forced to drink it or they would have been shot.

Hmmm... engage in our religion or die... who hasn't done that?

 

[JIMINZ]

There is no heaven or hell. All you need do is live an honorable life. There, now you've been informed.

You can thank me later.

You have made the point, you have chosen, not forced.

Then after you die you just get eaten by the worms?

Then what is the point in living an honorable life, what does it profit, might as well be an SOB if we all get eaten by the worms, and that's it, over and out.

What a meaningless existence.

 

[HitchSlap]

You have made the point, you have chosen, not forced.

You can't choose your beliefs.

Then after you die you just get eaten by the worms?

Not me, I plan to be cremated. But, now that you know the truth, kinda' makes what time you have left infinitely precious, don't you think?

Then what is the point in living an honorable life, what does it profit, might as well be an SOB if we all get eaten by the worms, and that's it, over and out.

Living honorably is it's own reward, and that's "profit" enough. However, if your religion is the only thing keeping you hinged, please keep believing in god.

What a meaningless existence.

This is what religion teaches you; you're a miserable loathsome person living a meaningless existence with no hope unless you believe certain things about a god.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You have made the point, you have chosen, not forced.

Then after you die you just get eaten by the worms?

You could have a burial as sea and be eaten by fish, if you preferred...

Then what is the point in living an honorable life, what does it profit, might as well be an SOB if we all get eaten by the worms, and that's it, over and out.

Would you rather be "an SOB"?

Why?

What a meaningless existence.

Indeed it is... which is why many people choose to find their own meaning for it.

If you can't see the light, be it.

 

[JIMINZ]

They all died martyrs... True Christians.

There you go with another misunderstanding, and misbelief.