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What is the end goal for creationists these days?

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Ophiolite

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What is the end goal for creationists these days?

The main topic of the thread for the last nine or ten pages:
Trivia concerning whether rocks are alive and the definition of blood.

Answer to the OP:
Distract evolutionists from doing something worthwhile.
 
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A life must have blood.
Now you can see why am I trying to define blood very precisely.
Are you able to precisely define blood and life for use in your scientific, Christian definition of blood and life?

If so, please do because I'd be very interested in understanding it.
 
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Are you able to precisely define blood and life for use in your scientific, Christian definition of blood and life?

If so, please do because I'd be very interested in understanding it.

I am still learning. It is not my expertise.
A necessary function of blood is that it circulates in the body. An implication derived from this tentative definition is that tree (in general, plant) is not a life. Because it does not have blood. If this definition is justified, then it will have a tremendous meaning and application. Many unanswered questions today could be answered.
 
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Sid Roth said on one of his programs that scientists found the Hebrew alphabet in DNA. That would make sense because scripture says that the word became flesh...

Is DNA found in the blood too? I thought it was but then someone said no...so I'm not sure now.
 
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Sid Roth said on one of his programs that scientists found the Hebrew alphabet in DNA.
On another post, perhaps in another thread, you said you use critical thinking. What critical thinking were you applying when you made this comment? Someone said something on a program! Where is the peer reviewed research, published in a reputable journal? In the absence of tha.t all you've got is a vague, unsubstantiated assertion. Perhaps, they have found it, but surely you would want some confirmation of something that would alter the perception of millions? This is not sufficient:
That would make sense because scripture says that the word became flesh...
That makes no sense whatsoever if you are a Hindu, a Bhuddist, a Taoist, a Moslem, an atheist or an agnostic.

Is DNA found in the blood too? I thought it was but then someone said no...so I'm not sure now.
DNA is found in the nucleus of cells, but mature red blood cells lack a nucleus and so have no DNA. While red blood cells are the major component of blood, the other cells in blood do have a nucleus and so they have DNA.
 
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I am still learning. It is not my expertise.
A necessary function of blood is that it circulates in the body. An implication derived from this tentative definition is that tree (in general, plant) is not a life. Because it does not have blood. If this definition is justified, then it will have a tremendous meaning and application. Many unanswered questions today could be answered.
It seems to me that you can't present a clear definition of Christian life, nor is there a way to test for its presence.

I suspect it will have to remain a point of personal faith and conviction, and not of testability, definition and science.
Sid Roth said on one of his programs that scientists found the Hebrew alphabet in DNA. That would make sense because scripture says that the word became flesh...

Is DNA found in the blood too? I thought it was but then someone said no...so I'm not sure now.
I'm not sure how you would even define this. DNA is a sequence of four chemicals: cytosine (C), guanine (G), adenine (A) or thymine (T).

Hebrew has at least 22 characters.
 
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I don't think there really is an "end game" for us creationists. We are merely defending the word of God. When people say the Bible is wrong we defend that. Evolution flies in the face of what God himself says. The claim is the bible is wrong. We say it is not.
 
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Evolution flies in the face of what God himself says. The claim is the bible is wrong. We say it is not.

And yet there are plenty of Christians that see no conflict between science and the Bible.

I also think that creationists have picked a dumb fight by trying to go up against modern science*. Historically speaking, religion has not fared well in that regard.

(* And in all honesty, they don't really challenge science directly. Most of what creationists promote is simply trying to convince the lay public to reject mainstream science.)
 
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I don't think there really is an "end game" for us creationists. We are merely defending the word of God. When people say the Bible is wrong we defend that. Evolution flies in the face of what God himself says. The claim is the bible is wrong. We say it is not.
That depends on what you conceive the Bible to be. Apparently, your take on the Bible is completely different than what my religion teaches. For example, it is our tradition that creation is described in Genesis as it is, because we, as mere humans, could not understand, or even accept, what really occurred. Here we are thousands of years later, and we are just beginning to understand how the universe formed.
 
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That depends on what you conceive the Bible to be.
No, it doesn't.

The Bible is right, whether I'm wrong or not.

5+4=9, and if someone thinks it equals 10, that statement is still correct: 5+4=9.
 
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A life must have blood.
Which rocks do not have, so I still do not understand why you claim they are alive. Heck, if one defined life as items which have blood, you'd consider more than half of the organisms considered alive not to be.


Now you can see why am I trying to define blood very precisely.
Even if you defined blood as "a fluid within something", most rocks still wouldn't be considered alive under those extremely weird life and blood definitions.
 
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I'm not sure how you would even define this. DNA is a sequence of four chemicals: cytosine (C), guanine (G), adenine (A) or thymine (T).

Hebrew has at least 22 characters.

I dunno. I'm going to research this a bit. I didn't say that it was so, I said that Sid Roth said that on one of his programs is all. I take that to mean, that it has a possibility of being so. So I'ma gonna check that out. I usually do that with almost everything, but I've been sort of hectic lately caring for my dad who's dying and I just spoke off the top of my head...
 
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On another post, perhaps in another thread, you said you use critical thinking. What critical thinking were you applying when you made this comment? Someone said something on a program! Where is the peer reviewed research, published in a reputable journal? In the absence of tha.t all you've got is a vague, unsubstantiated assertion. Perhaps, they have found it, but surely you would want some confirmation of something that would alter the perception of millions? This is not sufficient:

Because I said someone said something that means I say it's true? Uh, perhaps you should rethink that one, I didn't say it was so, I said he said it. That's it. I don't need sufficiency to say someone said...if I were to assert that it were true, then you'd have a case. But at this time, you're being presumptuous.

That makes no sense whatsoever if you are a Hindu, a Bhuddist, a Taoist, a Moslem, an atheist or an agnostic.

That's correct. But I...am...a...Christian...and this is a Christian forum. Wonder of wonders! I promise you that I wont go to a Buddhist board and say that, ok? That cool? ^_^
But...to a Christian it sorta does make sense that it could be there. I'll check it out to see if any substantiation is available for it on the net. If it's true then it's kinda big so it should be being talked about somewhere...

DNA is found in the nucleus of cells, but mature red blood cells lack a nucleus and so have no DNA. While red blood cells are the major component of blood, the other cells in blood do have a nucleus and so they have DNA.

Aha! Ok, thank you.
 
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