What is the curse of the law?

[JohnRabbit]

The law doesn't care about intentions, it wants absolute perfection in thought, deed and action.

Since none of us has done this the law condemns us. That's the curse. Now, what exactly is it?

the law doesn't care about intentions?

whatever!

had you read my post, i explained what the curse of the law is.

Deuteronomy 4:40(NKJV)
40You shall therefore keep His statutes and His commandments which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land which the Lord your God is giving you for all time.”

keep the commandments like Jesus said, and it will "go well with you"!

IOW, break the commandments and they'll break you!

 

[x141]

Again, What is the curse of the law? Whatever the curse is Christ delivered us from it by becoming a curse for us. (see Gal 3:13)

Please use only Biblical facts; not speculation or tradition to answer this important question.

In reality, you have to look no further then the first two chapters of the book to find what the curse as seen in it's first form means, even though this threads its way from cover to cover of the book.

But the biblical fact is: If you don't pick up your cross you cannot be taught of Him. Flesh (carnal mind) profits nothing.

Biblical fact: The Spirit that is in you will lead you into all truth, and you have no need that any man teach you.

Pick up your cross and learn from Him, and stop looking for the truth outside of you.

 

[pehkay]

The entire human race, however, is against His law and is breaking it. Therefore, the sinning race of mankind is under a curse, the curse of the law. This is the reason there are so many calamities, tragedies, and sicknesses, all of which are an indication that mankind is under the curse. But God is full of mercy, and He gives people a chance to repent. When we repented and were forgiven by God, we were released from the curse of the law.

As descendants of Adam, all sinners are under the curse. In Romans 5 we see that Adam brought us all under the curse. However, the curse was not made official until the law was given. Now the law declares that all the fallen descendants of Adam are under the curse. Whereas the law condemns us and makes the curse official, Christ through His crucifixion has redeemed us out of the curse of the law. “Christ has redeemed us out of the curse of the law, having become a curse on our behalf; because it is written, Cursed is every one hanging on a tree” (Gal. 3:13). Therefore, the curse that came in through Adam’s fall has been dealt with by Christ’s redemption.

The origin of the curse is man's sin (Gen. 3:17). The curse is carried out through the law, for the law administers the curse. Therefore, the curse is related to the law of God; it is the demand of the righteous God upon sinners.

The sign of the curse is thorns. After Adam sinned, the earth brought forth thorns because of the curse. So thorns are the sign of being cursed. The outstanding feature of thorns is that they prick, causing pain.

When Christ bore our sins, He also took our curse. Because Christ was cursed in our place, the demand of the law was fulfilled, and He could redeem us from the curse of the law. Now, as believers, we are freed from the curse of the law.

 

[miamited]

"The wages of sin is death"

Yes...1st or 2nd?

Hi SYF,

That depends on whether one accepts God's conditions for the removal of an individual's sin. If you don't, then yes you will die the 1st death and, according to Jesus, you will also die the second death.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[Setyoufree]

What is the significance of this? Don't break His Laws?

None of us are keeping the law.

 

[Setyoufree]

that it may go well with you...

That's not the demands of the law.....No where does the law say that. That was God speaking, not His law.

 

[Setyoufree]

In reality, you have to look no further then the first two chapters of the book to find what the curse as seen in it's first form means, even though this threads its way from cover to cover of the book.

But the biblical fact is: If you don't pick up your cross you cannot be taught of Him. Flesh (carnal mind) profits nothing.

Biblical fact: The Spirit that is in you will lead you into all truth, and you have no need that any man teach you.

Pick up your cross and learn from Him, and stop looking for the truth outside of you.

This is not an answer....

 

[Setyoufree]

.... for the removal of an individual's sin.

Removal?

 

[Setyoufree]

As descendants of Adam, all sinners are under the curse.

No, as descendants of Adam all were made sinners because the human race is born bent-to-self and without the indwelling of God's Spirit. Hence the human race is a condemned race.

However, the curse was not made official until the law was given.

Okay....that's true. Maybe we are saying the same things? Because of the fall all men share Adam's fallen life and therefore are unfit for heaven. Hence we are told "flesh & blood" cannot enter the kingdom of God. We are unfit by our nature alone. Hence we belong to a condemned race that leads to the first death. Not until the law do we become guilty of sin. That's because guilt involves volition.

we are freed from the curse of the law.

Yes, but what's the curse?

 

[Setyoufree]

had you read my post, i explained what the curse of the law is.

This? "walking contra to God's law's and it brings on curse"?

 

[NorrinRadd]

Gal 3:10 "...It is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM."

What is the curse of the law? Whatever the curse is Christ delivered us from it by becoming a curse for us. (see Gal 3:13)

Please use only Biblical facts; not speculation or tradition to answer this important question.

Thanks,

Setyoufree

That is not possible, because Scripture does not explicitly specify the answer.

Some scholars -- Gordon Fee, for one -- believe that the context is such that Paul is using "curse of the law" to mean "the curse of having to live by the law."

 

[x141]

This is not an answer....

Just because you can't see it, does not mean that it is not there.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

What is the significance of this? Don't break His Laws?
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None of us are keeping the law.

Or some just get away with breaking 'em

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[JohnRabbit]

This? "walking contra to God's law's and it brings on curse"?

yes, that's what it means!

if you walk according to the law you will receive blessings from the Lord and if you walk contra to the law you won't reap such!

Deuteronomy 5:33(NKJV)
33You shall walk in all the ways which the Lord your God has commanded you, that you may live and that it may be well with you, and that you may prolong your days in the land which you shall possess.

God tells you what the benefits of "walking according to His law is, i highlighted it for you.


now, you tell me what's the opposite of it being "well" with you?

the strife of the whole world is attributed to such!

 

[fhansen]

Gal 3:10 "...It is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM."

What is the curse of the law? Whatever the curse is Christ delivered us from it by becoming a curse for us. (see Gal 3:13)

Please use only Biblical facts; not speculation or tradition to answer this important question.

Thanks,

Setyoufree

The curse of the law is having to achieve obedience on our own, by our own efforts, apart from God. The New Covenant involves reconciliation with God, where communion between man and God is reestablished, where "No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest..." Jer 31:34. In John 15:5 Jesus reveals this truth, "Apart from Me you can do nothing". And in Matt 19:26, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Jesus came to heal the rift between man and God. Without this relationship we cannot hope to maintain our moral integrity.

 

[Setyoufree]

if you walk according to the law you will receive blessings from the Lord and if you walk contra to the law you won't reap such!

But who is doing this????

 

[Setyoufree]

The curse of the law is having to achieve obedience on our own, by our own efforts, apart from God.

Christ didn't do this, but yet He took our curse.

 

[fhansen]

Christ didn't do this, but yet He took our curse.

Jesus was always in communion with and in obedience to the Father, as we and all creation are called to do.

 

[squint]

Christ didn't do this, but yet He took our curse.

Trying to make Jesus a curse now too? lol

Whatever Jesus 'took on' it did not change His Perfection one iota.

Where we see Jesus taking away the sins of the world, did Jesus then become and remain all of that?

IF so I would not anticipate that meeting Him in that way would be much of a pleasure.

 

[squint]

yes, that's what it means!

if you walk according to the law you will receive blessings from the Lord and if you walk contra to the law you won't reap such!

God tells you what the benefits of "walking according to His law is, i highlighted it for you.

now, you tell me what's the opposite of it being "well" with you?

the strife of the whole world is attributed to such!

There is no 'if' above.

No one avoids the 'if.'

We all sin. We all therefore reap both the curse of reaping what we sow and the penalty of sin, which is death.

If? IF you walk according to the law are you going to avoid the curse(s) along with the penalty of death?

Uh, no.

There is no such theological creature as a 'legal sinner.'