What is pulling America Apart?

[RDKirk]

I'd say that LGBTQ are in more need of support at the moment.
You still have many USA folks wanting to outlaw gay marriage, refuse to sell gays wedding cakes, getting upset about gay characters in tv shows and movies, you probably still have many places in USA where gay people are afraid to walk hand in hand.

Whereas I presume blacks can get married to each other without much issue, can buy wedding cakes, can appear in tv shows and movies (granted there was some right wing nonsense about the Little Mermaid not having white enough skin).

I'm not saying that things are great for blacks in USA, but in comparison to the LGBTQ, the blacks or people of colour or ethnic minorities seem to be not quite so persecuted.

They didn't fly the black liberation flag even when black people were being bombed in buses and in Sunday Schools.

 

[timothyu]

Or perhaps, people, governments, organisations etc should continue the fight against bigotry of all kinds.

Won't happen unless a buck can be made, following the example of the new environmental movement run by industry.

 

[RDKirk]

Which is sometimes needed to wake up the complacent who have been lulled into a sense of robotism and parroting in compliance with a slowly changing course of governing which has become no longer by the people for the people but one of servitude to kingdoms with no loyalties to any nation but only a system above all. The world is being overrun by organizations calling themselves world this or world that and have given themselves authority over all without any input from the majority who are not the elite. Sez who they have this right? Oh right, they do. But go ahead and focus on your own pitiful squabbles over the local politicians America, people who mean nothing in the big picture. At least Trump shook up their system that both parties adhered to which they thought was proceeding well as they have built the world back better for themselves at near 100% gain and control. No need for mandates. The people have adapted and now the only thing remaining is new security measure to ensure it remains that way. Bring on the Trumps and anyone wise enough to reverse the trend.

Destroying the bus is not the same thing as reversing its direction. As I said, Trump's intention was to break it so that he could do what he wanted.

 

[timothyu]

Destroying the bus is not the same thing as reversing its direction. As I said, Trump's intention was to break it so that he could do what he wanted.

Those of Corporatism are already doing that. At least Trump would be a hometown boy you had some control over, although his anti-centralized government stance might be a good thing. I remember when your country was a leader, not a follower.

 

[stevil]

They didn't fly the black liberation flag even when black people were being bombed in buses and in Sunday Schools.

Sorry, I don't know about any of this stuff. never heard of a black liberation flag. I'll look it up though.
My previous post, I'm not trying to trivialise the issues blacks face in USA, it seems to be a big problem, I was just saying the LGQBT community are having a very hard time also.

 

[Laodicean60]

Or perhaps, people, governments, organisations etc should continue the fight against bigotry of all kinds.

I'm not sure about the government having become bigots themselves. Let the people clean up their own mess like Martin Luther Jr. when racism was real. It's all about votes and telling people what they want to hear. Obama called for amnesty and Republicans fought it and when Trump did it Democrats fought it. That just shows no one in government wants it they just use it. they don't want the other party to look good. Peace

 

[Laodicean60]

It's funny how a topic on what is pulling America apart ends up being about Trump as the people themselves who are at fault refuse to accept responsibility and seek others to blame for their actions or lack thereof. You allowed the country to be taken away from you, live with it or fix it.

Because the hate is real! Or fear???

 

[timothyu]

Because the hate is real! Or fear???

Neither. Lack of responsibility

 

[Laodicean60]

Completely unfettered no. But since capitalism buys lobbyists, they have too much say in those regulations. Very few good practical regulations get passed because they would be a strain on companies. Heck, even the Democrats removed the regulations on the market that would have prevented the housing bubble because of their corporate sponsors. Once we limit big corporate money in law-making, I think we can have better regulation, more regulation, and a better safety net.

Yes, I was disappointed when the Court allowed lobbyists. I'd like to see their tax returns. Each person has a representative in this country why does a CEO get to use his corporate money to bribe the unethical government? The food industry for instance is killing millions of people but the FDA turns a blind eye to it.

 

[RDKirk]

Sorry, I don't know about any of this stuff. never heard of a black liberation flag. I'll look it up though.
My previous post, I'm not trying to trivialise the issues blacks face in USA, it seems to be a big problem, I was just saying the LGQBT community are having a very hard time also.

Blacks had it really bad. Lesbians and gays had it bad.

Transsexuals today, sorry, they're nowhere in the same category of how things were 60 years ago. The concept of a "kinder, gentler society of equal rights" was already in swing.

 

[KCfromNC]

I agree! What we need is independent reporting without people inputting their personal biases or opinions. I'm curious if you are an American, what are your views on RFK jr?

I'm not sure my personal views on a fringe candidate are relevant to the topic. On the topic of pulling the country apart, I'd hope he stays out of the presidential race, since he seems to be looking to split the Democratic vote, and anything which would help the GOP is obviously bad for America.

 

[Laodicean60]

I'm not sure my personal views on a fringe candidate are relevant to the topic. On the topic of pulling the country apart, I'd hope he stays out of the presidential race, since he seems to be looking to split the Democratic vote, and anything which would help the GOP is obviously bad for America.

The problem in this country is tribalism. Trblalism is tearing this country apart! It's about the party these days and not the issues. We've become so divided to the point of paranoia that we are unwilling to hear anything else or being manipulated by media. I used to get into the same arguments being a Republican until I learned what the debt was going to do to us. It was a rude awakening when I found my party let me down. Going after Saddam over WMD and in reality it was the petrol dollar and terrorism birthed because of it. Hillary did the same in Lybia. Both are to blame. I've heard my party running on debt for 15 years and nothing has been done about it. Your party talked about amnesty Obama tried Republican shot it down and Trump tried it Democrats shot it down. Issues aren't important we just want to make the other party look bad or keep them from looking good. Peace

 

[JustOneWay]

The problem in this country is tribalism. Trblalism is tearing this country apart! It's about the party these days and not the issues. We've become so divided to the point of paranoia that we are unwilling to hear anything else or being manipulated by media. I used to get into the same arguments being a Republican until I learned what the debt was going to do to us. It was a rude awakening when I found my party let me down. Going after Saddam over WMD and in reality it was the petrol dollar and terrorism birthed because of it. Hillary did the same in Lybia. Both are to blame. I've heard my party running on debt for 15 years and nothing has been done about it. Your party talked about amnesty Obama tried Republican shot it down and Trump tried it Democrats shot it down. Issues aren't important we just want to make the other party look bad or keep them from looking good. Peace

Hillary did what in Libya? You speak as if she was a President or something. You believe Hillary was telling Obama what to do?

 

[Laodicean60]

Maybe, but if not her, something worse.

I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me. You have to talk to this old ADHD child like a first grader. My vocabulary stinks and thank God for the program grammerly.

 

[JustOneWay]

Maybe, but if not her, something worse.

That makes no sense.

 

[Laodicean60]

Everyone finds this out, no matter which party they had formerly put their trust in, if they trust politics, they get let down.
"something worse" , that politicians and the world usually listen to ?
Found in Ephesians 2, concerning the whole world, concerning all of us once, being subject to, under the sway of, the prince of the power of the air, not to Christ (to start with) ....

Tribalism has caused us to war against flesh and blood but our war is against the principaties and the systems of the devil. Humankind has to do its part and try to pick leaders who have honesty integrity and a true desire to help people. What is your recommendation for me to do?
My question to you is: What are you going to do specifically when the one world leader comes scene?

 

[mark46]

I'm not sure my personal views on a fringe candidate are relevant to the topic. On the topic of pulling the country apart, I'd hope he stays out of the presidential race, since he seems to be looking to split the Democratic vote, and anything which would help the GOP is obviously bad for America.

Polls show that he draws more votes from Trump

 

[mark46]

The problem in this country is tribalism. Trblalism is tearing this country apart! It's about the party these days and not the issues. We've become so divided to the point of paranoia that we are unwilling to hear anything else or being manipulated by media. I used to get into the same arguments being a Republican until I learned what the debt was going to do to us. It was a rude awakening when I found my party let me down. Going after Saddam over WMD and in reality it was the petrol dollar and terrorism birthed because of it. Hillary did the same in Lybia. Both are to blame. I've heard my party running on debt for 15 years and nothing has been done about it. Your party talked about amnesty Obama tried Republican shot it down and Trump tried it Democrats shot it down. Issues aren't important we just want to make the other party look bad or keep them from looking good. Peace

Do you believe that tribalism started in 2017?

Political elections, decorum, respect for the law, and acceptance of votes all changed with the 2016 election. It is instructive to re-visit the meetings between Bush and Obama during their transition, and their statements thereafter.

 

[KCfromNC]

Polls show that he draws more votes from Trump

Interesting. I know he's working with some of the far right misinformation crew, and obviously the anti-vaxx stuff plays well on the right so I guess it makes sense.

If that holds, hope he keeps up the good work.

 

[KCfromNC]

Or, let God Decide ?

That's not how US presidental elections work.

Remember this ? (I'm not a supporter of any politics, just found by internet search of gop, first hit. ) >>

"Republican National Committee | GOP​

"Join the millions of Americans fighting every day to keep our country free. "

Free from what would be the question.