razzelflabben
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responding isn't the issue...responding to what I actually did say is the issue. I'm sure if you try you can figure out the difference.
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responding isn't the issue...responding to what I actually did say is the issue. I'm sure if you try you can figure out the difference.If you really, truly believe that....
Then give up on me.
But if you will continue, you will learn that I......am.....waiting...
But I keep responding, so you'll know I'm not ignoring you.
You say I refuse to respond.....ok.
You have choices. May love guide you to make the wise one.
"Love creates patients out of patience."
like I said, when you are ready to talk AND listen rather than just talk and mock let me know we could have a great conversation if you were willing to participate.
Love is a funny, indefinable, limitless thing. When they say that God is Love, they are correct. You rarely know what it is, you only know what it is not. It does what it needs to do.
how can you do it? I offered definitions based on extensive study and you didn't like that. I showed where your definition had problems and you didn't like that. Now I am taking to you scripture itself and you don't like that. What do you like? Oh and don't forget I critic ed your statements and you didn't like that either.Mocking IS listening, because if you aren't listening you can't effectively mock.
Besides, it's done out of love. You're a fascinating study for love.
But I can't do this the way it seems you want. Again, I'm.........waiting....
Where it is painfully true that the things of the Spirit (God) cannot be understood by the things of the flesh (world) it is equally true that you would have to work hard at not understanding the basic concepts of what I have said. This willfulness makes effective communication impossible and not worth wasting time over. If you want to change your willful attempts to not understand to willingly listening and trying I'll be happy to stay otherwise I simply won't waste my time and instead will invest that time in something and/or someone willing to communicate.
You would give up so easily? I asked you a question I would think that you could at least be kind enough to answer...Love is kind after all.Ok. Thanks for your words. God bless.
since you refuse to see what is being said and I know from scripture I am right on this, we will not be in one accord until or unless you listen to what scripture tells us about Love.
Love is patient...the patience here is long suffering. Remember in the first definition I gave you where I said it created a covenant...this is a long suffering Love that remains till there is no longer need or hope. Are you suggesting that you have no hope in communicating with me because you refuse to listen?You have a good journey, my Lady. And may your days and nights be blessed with the pleasure of milk and cookies.
The warm kind. Always the best.
You will be missed.
I really like how you've laid out support for your thought on this. You definitely have a strong, philosophical sense. And I think you do give a strong case for including the concept of passion in your definition of love; I may be persuaded that something of this conceptual nature should be included.
However, one catch for me in this is that we are focusing on "Christological Love," and this kind of affection also requires that we 'love' ... even our enemies. So, I'm left wondering: How much positive passion do you think may be entailed in one person's love as it relates to dealing (or contending) with one's enemies? For instance, I just saw the movie, Get Out, a rather discomfiting Gothic thriller. How does one include passion in one's love for enemies who are of such a kind?
My example above isn't given to show that you're wrong--because on a general level, I think you're right--but rather I bring it up to point out that there are some complexities, maybe even some deep social complications, in working out a definition for Christological type love. I certainly don't have 'all' the answers on this ...
But, in the words of a profound author I've just read, "what say you"?
Peace,
2PhiloVoid
No. Suffering can also be a feeling and a noun.
You're most welcome, brother GosDontez! And by the way, I'm glad you've joined us here at CF.
3 words or less for another description of "love," eh? Well, let's see.
How about: Charity given selflessly. OR, Compassion extended graciously. I'll stop there with the adverbial phrases. I want to give others a chance to contribute, too.
Peace,
2PhiloVoid
Love is patient...the patience here is long suffering. Remember in the first definition I gave you where I said it created a covenant...this is a long suffering Love that remains till there is no longer need or hope. Are you suggesting that you have no hope in communicating with me because you refuse to listen?
BTW, think in this long suffering the sufferings of Christ as an example of what it is and the covenant He made with all who believe even His enemies.
I really like how you've laid out support for your thought on this. You definitely have a strong, philosophical sense. And I think you do give a strong case for including the concept of passion in your definition of love; I may be persuaded that something of this conceptual nature should be included.
However, one catch for me in this is that we are focusing on "Christological Love," and this kind of affection also requires that we 'love' ... even our enemies. So, I'm left wondering: How much positive passion do you think may be entailed in one person's love as it relates to dealing (or contending) with one's enemies? For instance, I just saw the movie, Get Out, a rather discomfiting Gothic thriller. How does one include passion in one's love for enemies who are of such a kind?
My example above isn't given to show that you're wrong--because on a general level, I think you're right--but rather I bring it up to point out that there are some complexities, maybe even some deep social complications, in working out a definition for Christological type love. I certainly don't have 'all' the answers on this ...
But, in the words of a profound author I've just read, "what say you"?
Peace,
2PhiloVoid
However, one catch for me in this is that we are focusing on "Christological Love," and this kind of affection also requires that we 'love' ... even our enemies. So, I'm left wondering: How much positive passion do you think may be entailed in one person's love as it relates to dealing (or contending) with one's enemies? For instance, I just saw the movie, Get Out, a rather discomfiting Gothic thriller. How does one include passion in one's love for enemies who are of such a kind?
Peace,
2PhiloVoid
Yes im still here.
(Oh goody, I was looking for this reply. Found it!)
When I was asked in return (and it only happened once, which is weird) what I thought love was in 3 words or less, my response was....
"A building process."
See, during the survey, I made it clear there was no right or wrong answer for the purposes of the survey. Early testing revealed that people thought they were talking a math test or something and feared they'd get it wrong....lol
Once I made that clear, this freed people up to pick words.
But here is something I wrote. It's a raw note on 'the building process' response I gave. But it's a bit long.
I'd like your thoughts on these thoughts I had when I began this study and started making observations based on the responses I received.
Again, it's a bit long, and I have not edited it because I don't usually do that during raw note-taking. So I hope you'll overlook any grammatical errors...
The Love Study. Notes. P1.
1. What Is Love? What Love Is.
2. Do you understand love?
3. How do you love?
4. Is love a law?
5. Can love ever be a bad (negative) thing? (...of money, etc.)
6. What grammatical part-of-speech is love? (Noun, verb, adjective, etc.)
Love is a building process so I'm gathering materials and ingredients in order to build a Love Boat (think a new Noah's ark) where I will make a Love Cake then serve it to those patients patiently waiting being rewarded for their paitience on our journey to the Love Castle in the Kingdom of Love.
So far, it seems to be caring affection or affectionate care based on attraction, connection, relation, and requires patience.
(Compare 5 love languages book.)
Introduction: A Building (predom male). A Process (predom female). Question. Can you describe what love is to you in 3 words or less? How is love made? Or what "makes love"...what it truly is?
Types of Love: (Applications: From & To. For & Towards. Passive & Active. Bred-by & Based-on. Separate into numbered list of God, Others, & Self.)
1. Religious - God, Gods, Goddesses
2. Familial - Parents, Siblings, Ext-Relatives
3. Parental - Children
4. Social - Friends, Associates
5. Romantic - Spouse
6. General - Strangers
Grammatical Designations:
1. Noun - passive - feeling love
2. Verb - active - performing love
Love Levels (Grades):
1. Beginner - B1, B2, B3
2. Intermediate - IM1, IM2, IM3
3. Expert - E1, E2, E3
4. Master - M1, M2, M3, M4
5. Grandmaster - G1, G2, G3
Thought: Good affectionn based on attraction is love. Evil affection based on attraction is lust?
Love is a noun and verb, passive and/or active.
Bumper sticker read: Love is for-giving. (Me: So learn how to love. It will be painful but worth the time it will take.)
If you had to choose between these two: Fruit or vegetable?
Steps To Love, my understanding:
1. Quiet patience (James "swift to hear" scripture, 1 Corinthians 13 "longsuffering" 1st characteristic.)
Below are the biblical natures, qualities, elements, characteristics, ingredients, components, materials and products of Love.
Find scripture story that displays 'love' characteristic for below section.
Composition - Scripture (O.T.):
1. Genesis Chapter 3 - patience, mercy, not easily provoked
Message Translation (O.T.):
1.
Composition - Scripture (N.T.):
1.
Message Translation (N.T.):
1. James 1:19-20
(Compare 'falling in lust' vs 'walking in love'. My S.O.S. nif - or shortsaying on attraction distraction.)
Recent Blog. Love: Gift or Right? (add here?)
My Love Foundation Theory: Patience leads to attraction leads to affection.
The Perfect Coda - The code to the secret ingredient to the making of love is summed up in something Someone Once Said. "At the core of the heart of the Divine inNAture of the beings of the emotion is, if you're not lovin'...you're hatin'. That is all."
Seperate what love makes from what love takes (double meaning) and from what takes love from what makes love. Then redo list.
Contrast Love to Lust.
(7-10-15) In reference to above...the realization of being confused. Thinking one is in lo-ve (pronounciation) when really in lu-st. The lo- and lu- sounds dragged out like a drawl...so one is in loooo-ve or one is in luuuu-st.
Love and Lust appear to be Twins of Attraction. Which means they're connected. But with one being Good and the other being Evil. They also appear to be Twins of Emotion. So how do you tell them apart?
So far, 'love' seems to be 4 surface things - affection, attraction, caring, connection - and requires 1 foundational thing - "patients". Alphanumeric this for ease of memory.
(Learned.) Patience is the foundation of love. But "patients" have limits. Since we're all connected, whether creation or evolution, theist or atheist we must be patient. If you don't be patient you will never have patience. And if you don't have patience you will never be patient.
But one can't do what one doesn't know. Thus, the burden of patience in relation to love falls on those with its knowledge. If you know this love, you owe this love. But you can demand it from others who kniw it as well. And if you don't know if they know....be patient. Show....then tell.
Love is a condition because it has a definition. So what is a condition? (Explain.) Is Love simultaneously conditional and unconditional? For instance, conditional in its Passive-Noun state, but unconditional in its Active-Verb performance? Love is Passive-Passion and Active-Action.
Love is the cure, not a disease. (Trek VGR episode) Love is the cure, lust is the disease. Love is the cure to the lust disease.
Building Lust is easy. Fast. Viral like a virus. And people like speed which is why lust is so attractive. Which is why a virus has no antonym. But it has an antidote.
Love is the cure to lust. But building Love is hard. Slow. Takes time. Cural (opposed to viral) like an antidote. Love is fast knowledge combined with slow wisdom.
Watching people "fight" over what love is may happen as site goes up. It will be like a sport. Some may only watch, others will likely play. But better, rather a "fight" than a war. (This note of realization/revelation came about because Ball Toss gamesport creation and mindset and updating Calena Edghill about side. In the end, I said, "make Facebook page, combine with blogspot...and let them have at it!") Bringing to mind this realization right under my nose...lol.
Ok, cool. As you may or may not be aware, I'm in the middle of two major discussions on this "love" thing. Both of which are really good!
Different....but good.
So what's your take on my reply to your statement?
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