What is ID?

[Colter]

No brains can never shown to have ghosts in them.

Brains can have morals because morality is an innate endowment of human personality and all personality comes from the creator personality.

 

[doubtingmerle]

Horses don't survive death.

Neither do people.

 

[Colter]

Neither do people.

Trump cant win the presidency.

 

[bhsmte]

Trump cant win the presidency.

Was Trump dead?

 

[Colter]

Was Trump dead?

Yes, politically speaking, he was. So many smug people laughed and mocked the idea of a Trump presidency, sort of like the Atheist types who deride believers with such self assurance. Outside of the (D)'s bubble, there was so much that they were blind to. But in the story of the resurrection, the apostles didn't believe it either until the saw it with their own eyes.

 

[bhsmte]

Yes, politically speaking, he was. So many smug people laughed and mocked the idea of a Trump presidency, sort of like the Atheist types who deride believers with such self assurance. Outside of the (D)'s bubble, there was so much that they were blind to. But in the story of the resurrection, the apostles didn't believe it either until the saw it with their own eyes.

All I can say is; LOL

 

[Speedwell]

Interesting theological twist, making Trump into a Type of Christ. Wonder if it will catch on?

 

[Larniavc]

Brains can have morals because morality is an innate endowment of human personality and all personality comes from the creator personality.

That is true. But morals are not ghosts.

Unless you are using the word ghost to mean something other than a dead persons supposed ethereal remains?

 

[Colter]

All I can say is; LOL

And alls I can say is how sad the truth "the way of the fool seems right to him".

 

[Colter]

That is true. But morals are not ghosts.

Unless you are using the word ghost to mean something other than a dead persons supposed ethereal remains?

Someone else used the term ghost, I don't belive in ghosts. But I do believe that the salvaged sons and daughters of God resurrect in a new form. Jesus resurrected in this same kind of new form.

 

[Colter]

Interesting theological twist, making Trump into a Type of Christ. Wonder if it will catch on?

Hah! I'm more fascinated by the snarky know it alls that truly believed that Trump could not be elected. All of their election analysis and millions spent, the bubble people who live in the fringe population centers were drinking their own koolaid and listening to the (D) dominated media. They sincerely believed it wasn't possible. It's the same crowd that laughs at Christians.

 

[doubtingmerle]

Was Trump dead?

Only his brain died, the body still seems to be moving.

 

[Speedwell]

Hah! I'm more fascinated by the snarky know it alls that truly believed that Trump could not be elected. All of their election analysis and millions spent, the bubble people who live in the fringe population centers were drinking their own koolaid and listening to the (D) dominated media. They sincerely believed it wasn't possible. It's the same crowd that laughs at Christians.

I'm a liberal Democrat who saw it coming and I'm a Christian. I think your stereotype is getting too lurid to be useful.

 

[Larniavc]

Someone else used the term ghost, I don't belive in ghosts. But I do believe that the salvaged sons and daughters of God resurrect in a new form. Jesus resurrected in this same kind of new form.

Okay.

Then I don't really understand your point.

 

[Speedwell]

Someone else used the term ghost, I don't belive in ghosts. But I do believe that the salvaged sons and daughters of God resurrect in a new form. Jesus resurrected in this same kind of new form.

Which argues that some sort of "form" is required for the mind to exist. Is that not why Christians look, as it says in the Creed, for the resurrection of the body?

 

[Colter]

Which argues that some sort of "form" is required for the mind to exist. Is that not why Christians look, as it says in the Creed, for the resurrection of the body?

Yes, in heaven we will have a "better and more enduring substance."

 

[Jimmy D]

I actually thought you all had picked up on the fact, I'm still not buying it. Your "well evidenced science" falls to pieces every time. honestly, I'd be embarrassed to even claim that.

No, it really doesn't "fall to pieces". I don't want to go down the route of telling you that you don't understand the science, but people who do study and practice science from all faiths disagree with you. Unless you can be more specific in telling us what falls to pieces your assertions will be dismissed in favour of the scientific consensus.

All you have is scientists that choose not to believe there is a God and they delude themselves into believing/assuming their agenda into reality

You've been on this forum long enough to have been corrected on this, yet you still persist, it's just dishonest.

You make a claim like that, while want your silly nonsense put in the middle of it all so they don't believe in God?...and how is that not control?

God is not included, his existence neither affirmed or denied, in science class. Religion should be taught in religious education class, what's wrong with that?

 

[Jimmy D]

As long as there are people (scientists) in the mix, there is no complete neutrality. Once again, science is nothing on it's on, and people can/will read into it, misread it, or whatever. It's nothing more than opinions and assumptions by people. Science is far from perfect because people are far from perfect.

When one says, science doesn't lie, they might as well be saying people don't lie. But alas, I don't think I'm ever going to get that point across, try as I have.

Yet it gets results, which you enjoy. You really need to get past this misguided idea that science = atheism = lies.

 

[Jimmy D]

ot realy. we also have positive evidences for design. and by the way- as far as we know there are only 2 possibilities: a natural process or a design. so i dont see anything wrong with trying to disprove a nantural evolution.

You have not presented any evidence for ID, none. You also present a false dichotomy, don't ask me what a third option could be, thinking about it would be a waste of time, the scientific consensus is clear.

and by the way- evolution isnt a scientific model either. so what is your resistance to id or creation is all about?

Evolution isn't a scientific model? Who would decide that, someone on the internet with a religious agenda or actual scientists? At least you admitted ID isn't a scientific model.

 

[Jimmy D]

Side affect/attempt, whatever....you keep dropping time wasting arguments here, that really get us no where. Do you just like talking?

The thread is called "What is ID" not "why Kenny'sID feels his beliefs are threatened by science".