What is hate?

[CreedIsChrist]

One question:
What exactly is same-sex theory? I've never heard or read that term.

One Comment:
Fearing that same-sex marriage will lead to marriages between family members or animals does seem to me to be an unfounded fear. Is that not a definition of phobia? "An unfounded fear"

It seems to me that this could fall under the heading of homophobia.

Im personally tired of seeing the word homosexuality or "gay" in so many threads. The first being an overused word and the second being a misrepresentation

Same-sex theory would just be relativistic way of justifying same sex relations or "unions" in this regard(or the opposite in the manner of people who are against it). Although some people try to take it into theological grounds; but it is so self defeating as to not be taken seriously.


As far as your comment I think you have fear confused with worry. One can worry about something without truly fearing the cause. For instance a person who has no fear of mice all of a sudden gets them inside his house, he still has no fear of mice, but still wants to rid them from his house because of the problems they can cause later on. You can't really say this person has a phobia of mice, but rather wants to get rid of the outward problems they could cause later on(the eating of food, the hurting of the structure of the house, the deadly hanta virus they're feces contains). A person who is arguing theologically that same-sex unions are wrong would not be arguing because of homophobia, but rather for the ridding of some heresy or unchristian concept for the betterment of society as a whole.

 

[Braunwyn]

No you misunderstand. Not say must lead to men-animal, sister-brother. Say may, say likely eventually. Not enough time pass. Say same logic be used by people who want men-animal, but not many such people so take much time. But think will happen. Maybe wont lead to man-animal marriage, because court say no. BUt argument will be made.

It's not a reasonable argument. To start, only humans are capable of giving human consent. If there isn't consent, than there isn't marriage. There is no way to argue around this.

 

[lisah]

If it is, well, that's exactly the way I came to see humanism in all its disguises and forms.

*chuckles*

So, you can relate.

What I did to move past that was to join in an interdenominational bible study with hundreds of women. Such a wonderfully odd experience to be surrounded by what I disliked so, knowing it was something I needed to do. I was a foreigner amongt them, and I grew to know the lovelyness inside them as I came to see that they struggled with some of the same things I struggled with.

It was good. Very good.

(that didn't even touch the experience of a year and a half of being with them...but...some experiences are difficult to briefly describe...)

 

[PhilosophicalBluster]

As far as your comment I think you have fear confused with worry.

Phobia
n.
2. A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.

Aversion
n.
1. A strong feeling of dislike, opposition, repugnance, or antipathy

Again, homophobia does not necessarily mean fear of homosexuals. I explained this before, but I guess I'll repost it to save you the trouble.

 

[No Swansong]

1) I no make this argument. I say is valid line reason.
2) I accept gay marriage
3) Animal can consent, if you know animal body language. My dog consent to pet all time by expose belly.
4) Brother-Sister can consent.
5) Will gay marriage lead this way, likely no. But will lead to argument for these by other. They say, okay them, why no us?

When a dog shows its underside it's a sign of submission not consent to be petted.

A dog cannot consent because of a number of reasons but the most important would be depth of understanding which is impossible for us to determine.

 

[No Swansong]

Submission is consent for dog.

But if we accept dog can give no consent, no matter what we do to dog. But dog allow us control them. If not resist, that consent.

Generally consent implies that knowledge is involved with the consent. Consent isn't considered consent for example in the medical world unless it can be proven to be informed consent. We have statutory laws because we recognize that children do not have the decision making skill or the knowledge necessary to give consent. Unless you can prove that a dog has full knowledge of what getting married means there can be no consent.

 

[No Swansong]

I disagree with this for dog. It is silly to demand informed consent from dog. Dog do what human want, dog give it consent. Different from human consent. If dog cannot give consent, dog ownership is abuse. I think having dog, not abuse.

So you are saying then that marriage wouldn't require informed consent if homosexuals are allowed to marry. That is not a logical conclusion.