what is freedom?

[dana b]

The "re-union" of the twelve sons of Israel back into one. From Adam until Israel there was a single Patriachial lineage. Adam, Seth, .......Noah...Abraham....Israel the 22d.

Then this single lineage was divided, not on purpose by by Leah's fathers treachery, into twelve lineages. Israel somehow know that Joseph, his first actual son which he had hoped for all along would reunite the brothers. So he gave them a coat with all of their colors. This is the meaning of these things. Today Joseph's English language is uniting the world by being the "international language."

 

[x141]

"Let no man decieve you by any means, for that day shall not come, except there by a falling away first, and that the man of sin be reveiled first, the son of perdition." 2Thess.2;3

It seems that we must first "fall away" or stand off afar in order to see the truth and come back to our good place. Even Paul sees and comments upon this. So we are put, or we put ourselves into a "finite time period" in order to be able to look from here and compare it to "eternity." If we were born into eternity from the first then we could not see or understand time. This is a duality thing similar to how darkness is necessary in order to understand and appreciat light. Just some incompleted thoughts i'm stating here. Help me express this more clearly.

God must first be an adversary, or a wounding, we must agree with him, though he slay me, yet will I trust in him. It's the two husbands, who become summed up in one.

 

[dana b]

God must first be an adversary, or a wounding, we must agree with him, though he slay me, yet will I trust in him. It's the two husbands, who become summed up in one.

Yes, i agree with you. In my personal case i had first to study and experience all the other major religions before is came to this same conclusion. I finally realized that those other religious philosophies still left me alone in the world of nature where i was. But when i caught the scent of Christianity and followed it's signposts i traveled to where i could see, not quite yet be in but see, another world besided nature with it's evercontinuous action and reation, cause and effect. And oh how freeing and glorious is that consciousness beyond this world of nature!

So God killed my natural consciousness and my attachment to it. And now, during my good moments, my times of power, i view, ponder and experience the consciousness without bounds! Praise to Jesus and God for waking me up from nature and showing me this.

 

[x141]

To me, the OT (not just about the book called a bible) is the perception of this slaying that became light to me, which became the sustenance/death that allowed the book of life to open in me.

Jesus agreed with his adversary in the wilderness of his mind, he was one who kept the feast ... there is a word of measure, then there is a word without measure, and all these words are the language of God, which language we are, which he is turning us to, a pure language.

 

[dana b]

To me, the OT (not just about the book called a bible) is the perception of this slaying that became light to me, which became the sustenance/death that allowed the book of life to open in me.

Jesus agreed with his adversary in the wilderness of his mind, he was one who kept the feast ... there is a word of measure, then there is a word without measure, and all these words are the language of God, which language we are, which he is turning us to, a pure language.

The tribe of Joseph's English language is the pure language. Because it is not a language at all. It is half Leah's latin and half Rachel's Germanic. It as a separate language does not exist at all. So it is the "pure language" which the Bible said would eventually be spoken. It has no predgudice because it is all in one. Thus Joseph re-unites the world after Babel's division.

 

[x141]

It is Josephs' tabernacle that is rejected, which is found in the pattern.

Though I cam see the shadow, it is not the light.

 

[dana b]

It is Josephs' tabernacle that is rejected, which is found in the pattern.

Though I cam see the shadow, it is not the light.

Yes. "Christian reject the ordinances of the Moon." (Old Testament principles such as eye for an eye)

Like the moonlight and the Sunlight. (moon= OT Moses Covenant, Sun=Jesus's New Testament)


The light comes from the Sun, the moon just reflects it.

Moses's Covenant was but a reflection of Christ's Covenant. Paul calls it "a shadow of good things to come." Col.2;17 and Heb.10;1

 

[Noxot]

the ordinances are nailed to the cross. the law and the prophets hang on the 2 greatest commandments. the moon is your own soul the stars are saints and angels and the sun is Jesus Christ.

everyone is an ordinance but those die and only one remains. if it is not nailed to the cross is it idol worship and eating strangled food. we are not allowed to eat meat that has blood in it. my own blood taste so much better than a strange womans blood. vampires will not inherit the kingdom of heaven unless they get a wooden stake through their heart.

the stars are twofold, enemies and friend. they are to push you to God, not to themselves. as for the moon and earth, we know her end. she dies to the laws of this universe and she twirls around and around as she flees to the sun, the earth is destroyed and the moon is reborn in the sun. the moon is in the sun but her nakedness can not be found.

the first abyss is water and the second abyss is fire. the only way to be free is to not be a slave to anything/anyone but God, His blood is mixed with your own. delicious blood, His wine is the best wine. each wine is different, each wine is the same. each wisdom and love is unique but the same.

 

[dana b]

the ordinances are nailed to the cross. the law and the prophets hang on the 2 greatest commandments. the moon is your own soul the stars are saints and angels and the sun is Jesus Christ.

everyone is an ordinance but those die and only one remains. if it is not nailed to the cross is it idol worship and eating strangled food. we are not allowed to eat meat that has blood in it. my own blood taste so much better than a strange womans blood. vampires will not inherit the kingdom of heaven unless they get a wooden stake through their heart.

the stars are twofold, enemies and friend. they are to push you to God, not to themselves. as for the moon and earth, we know her end. she dies to the laws of this universe and she twirls around and around as she flees to the sun, the earth is destroyed and the moon is reborn in the sun. the moon is in the sun but her nakedness can not be found.

the first abyss is water and the second abyss is fire. the only way to be free is to not be a slave to anything/anyone but God, His blood is mixed with your own. delicious blood, His wine is the best wine. each wine is different, each wine is the same. each wisdom and love is unique but the same.

Good thinking there! i see and agree with some. It's good to think deeply, symbolically, spiritually. Some people can, some people can't. Eternal life does not depend on it. But a vison of the kingdom of heaven does.