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Dear FIRE: My brother I have thoroughly enjoyed responding to you. Take your time, some of us have responsibilities (F.L. excluded LOL)

The mighty Baptism of the Spirit broke upon me early one morning while walking down the street to work. I had tarried, spent whole nights at the altar alone in the little Gospel Church, crying out to Him to fill me. Two years went by, and every day the cry within intensified. I just knew He was bringing me into a mighty experience!

And, when you least expect it, in that early morning walk as I expressed to Him, "give me the words to tell you how much I love You" I could no longer speak our mother tongue. A torrent of glory filled me until I thought I would die! Oh the Fire, oh our God who IS fire, can really "ruin" a persons life forever!
 
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Thread moved from Traditional Theology to Christian Scriptures

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Dear Mod: I appreciate you moving the fire post to a more appropriate link. Few found it before, & possibly the trend will continue (lol).

Please know your hard work as a MOD is much appreciated!

"Nothing can separate you from His love, absolutely nothing, neither death nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature... We do not need to beg Him to bless us, He simply cannot help it. Therefore God is enough! God is enough for time, God is enough for eternity. God is enough!" -Hannah W. Smith-
 
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Dear Anastasia: Glory to God indeed! Thank you for an insightful post, rarely is this depth found on these threads.

1 Peter 1:7 - These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, gl.
 
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When you get ore, you need to refine it in order to get what you need from it. This was traditionally done with fire.

When you want a stronger weapon, you need to heat and train the metal; you need "fire" for that.

To purify gold or silver, you must burn off the impurities by putting it in the fire (hot enough to burn away the impurities, but not the gold!)

You are right; the fire isn't necessarily a punishment. The "punishment" is a consequence of the iniquity we have. The more "impurities" we have, the longer we stay in the "fire." If you are pure, the fire doesn't harm you. God knows the temperature of fire unique for our purification in the same way a metallurgist knows the unique temperature of the metals s/he uses.
 
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Dear Kaon: Thank you for an insightful post. It is an interesting situation in those who are not "hurt" by the 2nd death, "the Lake of Theos. Why? They have been hurt over & over & over until nothing is left to hurt. Such is the outcome of tasting of the One whose essence is FIRE.
 
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People wonder why the Most High God doesn't just show Himself other than Christ, and why He casts out angels who disobey.

His literal nature would obliterate iniquity - which means us, and any other fallen entities. The more iniquity, the more consuming the fire. Trials, therefore, are mercies of temperament - to prepare us though refinement to be with Him.
 
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"No words can express how much the world owes to sorrow. Most of the Psalms were born in the wilderness. Most of the Epistles were written in a prison. The greatest thoughts of the greatest thinkers have all passed through fire. The greatest poets have "learned in suffering what they taught in song." In bonds Bunyan lived the allegory that he afterwards wrote, and we may thank Bedford Jail for the Pilgrim's Progress. Take comfort, afflicted Christian! When God is about to make pre-eminent use of a person, He put them in the fire." -George MacDonald-
 
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Dear Kaon: I have not found a way to send a personal note on this site. It may be on account of my age & various infirmities or simply a broken mind. I do appreciate your efforts to enrich me, which you have done in a couple of ways already. Your kindness is much appreciated even though it erodes my vow of poverty.

May His great love & grace continue to lead us into the outer edge of what is described by the Lord's vessel as "being saved to the uttermost." Methinks the fire of His Presence is foundational for such an expansive experience, and one our beings have set our sights in Him.
 
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Surround yourself with quality

That could mean both spiritual and worldly skilled people as well including having good reliable friends.

Many self help books and careers skill books give the same advice so there must be more than a grain of truth in it. It can be tough working out what quality is when you have never seen it before. Experience brings you the truth of this lesson but some including myself have been slow to work it out. Very True though and worthy of a place on your list.

I've been fortunate enough to strike Gold in the church I first joined - Great Pastor and some very spiritually gifted people who knew where the river flowed best and deepest and led the people to encounter God in a more fuller experience.

EZEKIEL 47:3
As the man went eastward with a measuring line in his hand, he measured off a thousand cubits and then led me through water that was ankle-deep. 4 He measured off another thousand cubits and led me through water that was knee-deep. He measured off another thousand and led me through water that was up to the waist. 5 He measured off another thousand, but now it was a river that I could not cross, because the water had risen and was deep enough to swim in—a river that no one could cross. 6 He asked me, “Son of man, do you see this?”

My Number 2 on my list

GUARD YOUR HEART FOR IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING YOU DO
 
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