What is does "anointing" mean in the New Testament?

[JimB]

Well, I for one would like to have a civil discussion about the subject of the term “anointing” as it is used in the New Testament. So, if we can keep it “civil”, I would like to hear from you.

IMO, this word “anoint” is probably the most misused word of them all in SFPC circles. We think people are anointed to heal, to lengthen (but never shorten) legs, to fill teeth, to call down gold flakes, to raise enough money to be on TV, or to have the marketing skills to draw large crowds. These are not “anointings”, at least the way it is used in the NT.

The NT teaches that ALL BELIEVERS ARE ANOINTED! We were anointed to be the servants of God when we became believers—we share Christ’s anointing as servants (and sons and daughters!) of the kingdom. Every believer is anointed. There is no such thing as an “anointing” to do this or that. That is the way theOT uses the term. As servants of the kingdom we are anointed to "be"; not to "do".

Apart from the physical “anointings” of oil, clay, spikenard and perfume there are only 6 mentions of “spiritual” anointing in the New Testament. Here they are:

Luke 4.18; Acts 10.38; Hebrews 1.9 relate on to Christ, “the Anointed” One. There can only be one Messiah.
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The only passages in the NT that relate to the anointing of believers is 2 Cor. 1.21 and 1 John 2.20, 27 and here these verses are:

Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God (2 Cor. 1.21).

20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things . . . 27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. 1 John 2)
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We are anointed to “know” says 1 John. Know what? Well, according to 1 John we "know" at least the following 15 things: …

We know …
… that we know Him. (1 John 2.3)
… that we are in Him. (v.2.5)
… that it is the last hour. (v.2.18)
… the truth. (v.21)
… that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him. (v.29)
… that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. (v.3.2)
… that He was manifested to take away our sins. (v.3.5)
… that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. (v.3.14)
… that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. (v.3.19)
… that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. (v.3.24)
… that the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. (v.4.6)
that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. (v.4.13)
… that we have eternal life. (v.5.13)
… that the wicked one does not touch him. (v.5.18)
… that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding. (v.5.20)
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What do you think?

~Jim

Changing one thing for the better is worth more than proving a thousand things are wrong.

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[enoch son]

The word servant should be slave. The jest of your post is right on. It is the annionted one in you and on you that brings it on. It is given in a greater degree to the ones that God has a use for to for fill His good pleasurer and has nothing to do with time served, understanding, or pray time. It's about Jesus and only Jesus what matter in this matter is that HE IS THE ALL IN ALL!

 

[DInsight]

Grace and peace from the Father and from Christ the Anointed One unto all!

Christ or Messiah is the Anointed One and His Anointing.

Scripture in Acts 10:38 has it that Jesus of Nazareth was anointed by with the Holy Ghost and with Power to do good, heal those possessed with demons, etc:

How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.​

Above clearly tells us what is the fullness of "anointing" that Jesus our Lord was "spiritually" anointed with... God anointed Him with the Holy Ghost and with Power.

As a shadow of the anointing, the "physical" anointing oil was commissioned by God:

1. It was a shadow because the Holy Ghost and the kingdom of Christ wherein is the Power of Christ were yet revealed.
2. It was a special blend whose special ingredients symbolized the Holy Ghost and things of the Power of Christ.

Holy Ghost, as an anointing, teaches us all things about the Lord - John 14:26:

But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.​

Again, John writes about the "anointing" teaching us all things - 1John 2:17:

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.​

Through teaching, the Holy Ghost makes us "know" all things, including those 15 things that Jim M listed above.

The Power (Dominion), as an anointing, enables us to do works of the Christ such as all good things that Jesus did; casting out devils, healing the sick, setting the captives free, healing the broken hearted, raising the dead, preaching the gospel, and declaring the year of the Lord.

Have All Believers Received the Anointing?

NO! Not all believers have the Holy Ghost... but all believers are promised the Holy Ghost.

Also, not all believers have the power of the Christ... but all believers are promised the power of Christ.

Some believers have various measures of the power of the Christ depending on how much of the revelation of the kingdom of Christ they have received.

Many faithfuls are yet to see or enter the kingdom of God and Christ. That is why they don't have the anointing as yet.

Blessings!!!!!

 

[JimB]

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Have All Believers Received the Anointing?

NO! Not all believers have the Holy Ghost... but all believers are promised the Holy Ghost.

Also, not all believers have the power of the Christ... but all believers are promised the power of Christ.

Some believers have various measures of the power of the Christ depending on how much of the revelation of the kingdom of Christ they have received.

Many faithfuls are yet to see or enter the kingdom of God and Christ. That is why they don't have the anointing as yet.

Blessings!!!!!

But I believe all believers do “have the Holy Ghost.” How else could they be born of the Spirit (John 3.6)? How else could they be baptized by the Spirit into the body of Christ and made to drink of the same Spirit (1 Cor. 12.13)?

Either we are in the Kingdom of God or we are still in our sin.

~Jim

“Civilized” nations are those with the best weapons. ​

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[synger]

Have All Believers Received the Anointing?

NO! Not all believers have the Holy Ghost... but all believers are promised the Holy Ghost.

Also, not all believers have the power of the Christ... but all believers are promised the power of Christ.

Some believers have various measures of the power of the Christ depending on how much of the revelation of the kingdom of Christ they have received.

Many faithfuls are yet to see or enter the kingdom of God and Christ. That is why they don't have the anointing as yet.

Blessings!!!!!

There is only one baptism, and that is the one in which the Holy Spirit fills us. All believers have the Spirit, though they may not know that power fully for a time. During our Christian life, God grows and teaches us, sanctifying us and making us more and more Christ-like. But there is only one baptism.

 

[JimB]

There is only one baptism, and that is the one in which the Holy Spirit fills us. All believers have the Spirit, though they may not know that power fully for a time. During our Christian life, God grows and teaches us, sanctifying us and making us more and more Christ-like. But there is only one baptism.

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[~RENEE~]

Not all believers have the fullness of the Holy Spirit. There is so much more.

Now about the anointing thing.

Read the account of Elijah and Elisah.

There is a special anointing for things.






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[Greatcloud]

I believe scripture supports initial consecration, when someone is saved they are also born of the Spirit. But to say then therefore I don't have to seek the Holy Spirit because he will draw me needs to be considered. I believe the scripture supports an outward sign of the Holy Spirit. Tongues are the most noted outward sign,they are the only sign other then the gifts that are not internal. ​

Because of what the poster said above about the passage in Acts,and the two passages in 1John. These are reasons why I believe 1 John is referring to the Holy Spirit and how Jesus said when the comforter comes he will lead you into all truth. This anointing in 1 John seems to clearly be talking about the Holy Spirits anointing.​

You are correct that the main meaning of the word anointing is to consecrate or set apart. The poster DInsite is right on when he says that the OT anointing was only a shadowing of the actual anointing of the Holy Spirit.​

Therefore I believe both uses of the words are correct. As far as saying there is no anointing for:

IMO, this word “anoint” is probably the most misused word of them all in SFPC circles. We think people are anointed to heal, to lengthen (but never shorten) legs, to fill teeth, to call down gold flakes, to raise enough money to be on TV, or to have the marketing skills to draw large crowds. These are not “anointings”, at least the way it is used in the NT.

If as I said, about the word anointing as used in 1 John it refers to the HS, then in that sense,all these things are legitimate. Now all those things you mention here are also misused but the main point is that God can give an ability to do something like one of these things. I know someone who was gifted(anointed) by God to play the piano,and in his Spirit he felt God was telling him he was not to use it for secular music.​

"THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED Luke 4 :18,​

Anointed to give sight to the blind and to preach ? It seems those are anointings to do something. I look forward to a good discussion,brother.​

 

[DInsight]

But I believe all believers do “have the Holy Ghost.” How else could they be born of the Spirit (John 3.6)? How else could they be baptized by the Spirit into the body of Christ and made to drink of the same Spirit (1 Cor. 12.13)?

Either we are in the Kingdom of God or we are still in our sin.

~Jim

“Civilized” nations are those with the best weapons. ​

Grace and peace from God and from the Christ unto all!

Well, when the time comes that a believer is born of the Spirit, then such a believer is born of the Spirit. John 3:6 does not suggest or imply or directly say all believers have the Holy Ghost.

If it were so, how come Samaritans who believed Philip and were baptized for the remission of sins did not have the Holy Ghost until Peter and John went over to them (Acts 8:5-25)?

Here is how the difference of opinion comes about:

1. Every believer is sealed with the Spirit. The Bible is very clear about that. That Spirit comes by the hearing of faith. This is prior to the manifestation of the Christ in the believer. Basically, He is the promised Spirit that part manifests to add folks to the Body of Christ and introduce them to the spiritual realm of God.
2. The Holy Ghost is the very Spirit of Christ (post resurrection and glorification of Jesus Christ hence the Ghost) that comes with the power of Christ to do the works of Christ unto the glory of Christ according to the oath of the Christ. Jesus Christ, by Himself, baptizes us with the Holy Ghost.

When we are not careful to know their specific roles, we have a problem taking one for another.

Ofcourse, as with all things of God and Christ, both the Spirit and the Holy Ghost are in unity.... just as the Father and the Son are in unity but have distinct roles. The KJV never confuses the Spirit with the Holy Ghost.

For example, how would you explain the difference between the two Spirits (Spirit and Holy Ghost) referred to in this scripture:

John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)​

So, we have a pre-glorification of Jesus Spirit that comes to the believer by the hearing of faith... and a post-glorification Holy Ghost that the believer who has the Spirit already is baptized with by our Lord Jesus Christ.

A germaine question follows: does every believer have the Holy Ghost because we live in a post-glorification era after the resurrection of Jesus Christ?

NO! If so, Samaritans would have obtained before Peter and John went to them.

Believing makes us receive spiritual things. Only those who have obtained the Holy Ghost and power (dominion) of Christ are on their way to enter the kingdom of Christ, which is the manifestation/revelation of the glorious and powerful Christ.

While on the way of the kingdom (or onset of the revelation of Christ), they receive the first set of fruit called the keys of the kingdom that eventually minister entrance into the full blown kingdom wherein they receive the fullness (perfection) of glory (eternal fruit and treasures) of Christ.

Many who are stuck in the realm of the faith of God have promises of the kingdom, power and glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Our Lord has ministers (as administrative or ministry gifts to His Body of faithful believer) who minister the Holy Ghost and power, on His behalf, to prepare faithfuls on their way of the kingdom of Christ.

That is why Samaritans could be sealed the Spirit because they believed, but not the Holy Ghost until Apostles Peter and John came to baptize them with on behalf of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So, Jim M, it is best to start from John 3:5 to clearly understand the flow of Jesus' dazzling teaching to Nicodemus. He said in John 3:5 "... except a man is born of water (Holy Ghost as the Spirit of the glorified Jesus Christ in context of John 7:39 above) and the Spirit (that comes by hearing of faith by a believer), he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Then He went on in the following 2 verses to explain what a thing that is born of the Spirit really is and feels like... a spirit and a blowing wind, just as that which is born of the flesh is flesh.

Synger:
There are many baptisms (see Heb. 6:2) in the unity of (one) baptism just like you have one faith to another faith in the unity of (one) faith.... just like you have the seven spirits of God in the unity of (one) Spirit of God.

So, when you say:

There is only one baptism, and that is the one in which the Holy Spirit fills us

that is not absolutely correct. Baptism with the Spirit is one of few baptisms in the unity of (one) baptism.

 

[JimB]

Grace and peace from God and from the Christ unto all!

Well, when the time comes that a believer is born of the Spirit, then such a believer is born of the Spirit. John 3:6 does not suggest or imply or directly say all believers have the Holy Ghost.

If it were so, how come Samaritans who believed Philip and were baptized for the remission of sins did not have the Holy Ghost until Peter and John went over to them (Acts 8:5-25)?

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The incident with the Samaritans is an interesting point. I will try to explain my position from a paper I am writing in which I wrote:

In Acts chapter 8, when Philip preached in Samaria, many “received the word of God” (v.14), were “baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus” (v.16) and “joy filled the city” (v.8). Still, something seems to have been lacking because Philip sent for the Apostles Peter and John who came to Samaria to lay hands on the believers so that the Spirit would “fall” on them and they would “receive the Holy Spirit” (vv.16-17). This apostolic intervention would have been unnecessary if, as I have previously claimed, the Samaritans had been filled with the Spirit at their conversion.

Unless, the Holy Spirit fills us more than just one time. I was taught early on from a Pentecostal frame of reference that there is “one Spirit baptism but many fillings” and that the phrase in Ephesians 5.18, “do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit” carries with it the meaning of “be continually filled with the Spirit.” The verb “filled” is in the present tense implying a continual, recurrent process. To prove this, I was taken to Acts 4 where Peter and John, who had been filled with the Spirit at Pentecost, were miraculous released after being arrested and returned to the house where Christians were praying for them. In the joy of that moment, “the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit” (v.31). Apparently, since Peter and John were part of that “all”, they were again filled with the Spirit. Being filled with the Spirit in the New Testament, just as it was in the Old Testament, was not a one-time thing. It occurs time and again; not as we will but as the Spirit wills (1 Cor. 12.11; Heb. 2.4; 2 Peter 1.21).

Although many Pentecostal scholars will disagree with me, I remain hesitant to build doctrine merely on narrative passages of scripture. Narrative is a literary genre meant to tell a story, not to detail a theology. At best, from narrative, we can only judge what a passage implies, not always what it explicitly teaches. Dr. David R. Reid, formerly a faculty member at Emmaus Bible College and graduate of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary helped me understand that when determining doctrine, biblical narrative (story—the Gospels and Acts) must be subject to the didactic (teaching—the Epistles) passages of Scripture. If, for example, we allow the events narrated in the book of Acts to govern the doctrine of, say, Christian baptism, we could build a good case that water baptism is necessary for salvation. Indeed, that's how some interpret Acts 2.38, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins." But Acts 2 must be subject to more definitive doctrine given in the Epistles, such as “if you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" (Romans 10.9), and "you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit" (Ephesians 1.13).

How then can I believe that the Samaritans were filled with the Spirit the moment they were saved when Act 8.16 clearly states, “the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them”? Certainly, these baptized believers who had accepted the word of God and were filled with joy had already received the Holy Spirit or else they were yet unbelievers (at least according to Acts 2.38; Rom. 8.15; 1 Cor. 2.12; Gal. 3.2, 14) and their salvation was still incomplete. Some have interpreted Acts 8 in this manner but it seems from Luke’s account that many of the Samaritans had indeed come to Christ. Still, “the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them.”

What does that mean? In my opinion, it indicates that there was a part of the message that Philip, himself an unskilled teacher, had not communicated to the new believers, something they had yet to grasp in the same way many Christians today have yet to comprehend the great power that is available to them in the Holy Spirit. This may very well be why Philip felt it necessary to send for the Apostle’s to oversee and fine-tune the message so that the Samaritan believers would realize, even experience, what they already possessed. It’s like that pie in your KFC full meal deal. You may not have expected it or even known it was part of the package when you purchased your meal and may have even questioned it being there and had to have an employee tell you/teach you, “The pie is part of the deal,” before you realized all you have available to you. © Jim B. Miller 2007

~Jim

“Civilized” nations are generally those with the best weapons.

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[Always in His Presence]

There is only one baptism, and that is the one in which the Holy Spirit fills us. All believers have the Spirit, though they may not know that power fully for a time. During our Christian life, God grows and teaches us, sanctifying us and making us more and more Christ-like. But there is only one baptism.

Heb 6:1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits.

One baptism? Why then did the writer of Hebrews speak of the Doctrine of Baptisms (plural)?

 

[Always in His Presence]

But I believe all believers do “have the Holy Ghost.” How else could they be born of the Spirit (John 3.6)? How else could they be baptized by the Spirit into the body of Christ and made to drink of the same Spirit (1 Cor. 12.13)?

Either we are in the Kingdom of God or we are still in our sin.

There's the difference. Most Pentecostal's (including your own denomination), see the difference between being born of the SPirit and receiving the Power as described in Acts.

 

[JimB]

There's the difference. Most Pentecostal's (including your own denomination), see the difference between being born of the SPirit and receiving the Power as described in Acts.

I do not question that there is a difference between “receiving the Spirit” and being “filled with the Spirit”. I simply believe they happen simultaneously when we are "born of the Spirit".

~Jim

“Civilized” nations are generally those with the best weapons.

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[BenAdam]

Not all believers have the fullness of the Holy Spirit. There is so much more.

Now about the anointing thing.

Read the account of Elijah and Elisah.

There is a special anointing for things.






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Elijah and Elisha are not the same as believers today.

As far as the fullness of the Holy Spirit goes, what is that measure? How much you prophesy, speak in tongues, heal, etc? Is it the amount of fruit you bear? Is it how many souls you save? Is it walking in true love?

My thought is the last. There are miracles aplenty to go around, but to walk in love toward God and man, that is a rare thing indeed.

 

[JimB]

Elijah and Elisha are not the same as believers today.

As far as the fullness of the Holy Spirit goes, what is that measure? How much you prophesy, speak in tongues, heal, etc? Is it the amount of fruit you bear? Is it how many souls you save? Is it walking in true love?

My thought is the last. There are miracles aplenty to go around, but to walk in love toward God and man, that is a rare thing indeed.

I believe you are right, Ben. 1 Cor, 13 bears you out—1</SPAN> Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

~Jim

“Civilized” nations are generally those with the best weapons. ​

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[Greatcloud]

Both are correct

I believe scripture supports initial consecration, when someone is saved they are also born of the Spirit. But to say then therefore I don't have to seek the Holy Spirit because he will draw me needs to be considered. I believe the scripture supports an outward sign of the Holy Spirit. Tongues are the most noted outward sign,they are the only sign other then the gifts that are not internal.

Because of what the poster said above about the passage in Acts,and the two passages in 1John. These are reasons why I believe 1 John is referring to the Holy Spirit and how Jesus said when the comforter comes he will lead you into all truth. This anointing in 1 John seems to clearly be talking about the Holy Spirits anointing.

You are correct that the main meaning of the word anointing is to consecrate or set apart. The poster DInsite is right on when he says that the OT anointing was only a shadowing of the actual anointing of the Holy Spirit.

Therefore I believe both uses of the words are correct. As far as saying there is no anointing for:

IMO, this word “anoint” is probably the most misused word of them all in SFPC circles. We think people are anointed to heal, to lengthen (but never shorten) legs, to fill teeth, to call down gold flakes, to raise enough money to be on TV, or to have the marketing skills to draw large crowds. These are not “anointings”, at least the way it is used in the NT.

If as I said, about the word anointing as used in 1 John it refers to the HS, then in that sense,all these things are legitimate. Now all those things you mention here are also misused but the main point is that God can give an ability to do something like one of these things. I know someone who was gifted(anointed) by God to play the piano,and in his Spirit he felt God was telling him he was not to use it for secular music.

"THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED Luke 4 :18,

Anointed to give sight to the blind and to preach ? It seems those are anointings to do something. I look forward to a good discussion,brother.​

 

[JimB]

Both are correct

I believe scripture supports initial consecration, when someone is saved they are also born of the Spirit. But to say then therefore I don't have to seek the Holy Spirit because he will draw me needs to be considered. I believe the scripture supports an outward sign of the Holy Spirit. Tongues are the most noted outward sign,they are the only sign other then the gifts that are not internal. ​

Because of what the poster said above about the passage in Acts,and the two passages in 1John. These are reasons why I believe 1 John is referring to the Holy Spirit and how Jesus said when the comforter comes he will lead you into all truth. This anointing in 1 John seems to clearly be talking about the Holy Spirits anointing.​

You are correct that the main meaning of the word anointing is to consecrate or set apart. The poster DInsite is right on when he says that the OT anointing was only a shadowing of the actual anointing of the Holy Spirit.​

Therefore I believe both uses of the words are correct. As far as saying there is no anointing for:​

IMO, this word “anoint” is probably the most misused word of them all in SFPC circles. We think people are anointed to heal, to lengthen (but never shorten) legs, to fill teeth, to call down gold flakes, to raise enough money to be on TV, or to have the marketing skills to draw large crowds. These are not “anointings”, at least the way it is used in the NT.​

If as I said, about the word anointing as used in 1 John it refers to the HS, then in that sense,all these things are legitimate. Now all those things you mention here are also misused but the main point is that God can give an ability to do something like one of these things. I know someone who was gifted(anointed) by God to play the piano,and in his Spirit he felt God was telling him he was not to use it for secular music.​

"THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED Luke 4 :18,​

Anointed to give sight to the blind and to preach ? It seems those are anointings to do something. I look forward to a good discussion,brother.​

Oh. I was not aware you were asking me a question.

My concern in this thread is how we use (or misuse) the term anointing. I agree, Christ was anointed to do things but His anointing was under the economy of the Old Testament and the word “anointing” as applied to Him in Luke 4 was based on an OT text and the word was used in the OT sense of consecrating things and people to the service of (or a service for) God.

Furthermore, Jesus was HIS Anointed One (Acts 4.26, NIV), THE anointed one. No one can have either the same anointing Jesus had as the Only Begotten of the Father nor in the measure that He had it (Heb. 1.9). But the anointing of the Anointed One is not the same as the anointing on us. He was anointed to do things in order to prove His right to being Messiah, the Anointed One and in order to make us God’s “anointed” and adopted children. We are anointed to “be”, not to “do”. The doing part is a provision given to us through the Holy Spirit but I do not link the work of the Holy Spirit in the believers life to how the word “anoint” is used for believers in the NT.

~Jim

Gross ignorance is 144 times worse than the normal kind.​

 

[Greatcloud]

Can you give me a brief(or long),description of what you believe is the work of the Spirit in a believers life today ? I would be very interested and would like to be on the same page with you. Clarifying every aspect of this question is vital to believers of today.​

 

[Dave01]

Furthermore, Jesus was HIS Anointed One (Acts 4.26, NIV), THE anointed one. No one can have either the same anointing Jesus had as the Only Begotten of the Father nor in the measure that He had it (Heb. 1.9). But the anointing of the Anointed One is not the same as the anointing on us. He was anointed to do things in order to prove His right to being Messiah, the Anointed One and in order to make us God’s “anointed” and adopted children. We are anointed to “be”, not to “do”. The doing part is a provision given to us through the Holy Spirit but I do not link the work of the Holy Spirit in the believers life to how the word “anoint” is used for believers in the NT.

~Jim

I would say that scripture does not agree with your assesment Jim,..

12 ¶ (ASV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father.

Jesus gave us a perfect example to go by, and in fact, He promised us to do greater things than Him because He would be at The Fathers right hand enacted them through us.

 

[Greatcloud]

Here are a few more scriptures about following the example of Jesus.

For to this have ye been called; for Christ also has suffered for you, leaving you a model that ye should follow in his steps: 1Peter 2:21

For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. John 13:15 These are the words of Jesus​

Be imitators of me, in so far as I in turn am an imitator of Christ 1Cor. 11:1


Now returning to the IMO pivotal scripture in this discussion. Principally here :

"THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED Luke 4 :18,

Jesus commandeered this scripture and pulled it from the past into NT times.

Then he said to them, "This passage came true today when you heard me read it." Luke 4:21

Jesus did not say some of this passage has come true,no Jesus meant the whole passage.

The result of these scriptures mean that the word anointed can be and is used to mean a spiritual anointing. We may be impowered by the Spirit to, among other things Preach and Heal.

So to sum up we are encouraged by Christ himself to follow his example. No where does it say Christ's anointing in these verses is one we can not follow. The verses in Luke do not just belong in the OT. Jesus says plainly this passage has been fulfilled in your hearing. Jesus brings the words out of the OT and into the NT.

DInsight is right the anointing with oil is only a symbol of the anointing by the Holy Spirit. It is not a dead symbol it reaffirms the anointing with the Holy Spirit. Which since the earliest recorded times has come down to us in the church today,in an unbroken line richly.