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What is Christian marriage?

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ZiSunka

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You seem to be looking for something nobody can provide, Lambslove. You sure you WANT to get married?


You can act like a jerk sometimes VOW.

Slinging such meanness back at me won't make you right. But that IS your typical MO. If someone disagrees with you, your turn it all back on them. It's why I dread reading your replies to my posts.

I'm looking for info on how to live a Christian marriage, not info about your marriage specifically, and not generic stuff like you have posted. What does it take to have an authentically Christian marriage? That's my question.


Maybe you do know something about marriage, but all you've done here is cut-and-paste something you found on some catholic doctrine website. You haven't told me anything that I couldn't find in four hundred other places. I'm bored with that. Especially when I asked you NOT to do that.

I'm sorry that I even asked this question. I hate when a simple question starts a fight.

Okay other catholics, feel free to jump in and slam me because I said something you don't like.
 
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lambslove, I have just read a book called eros redeemed by John white, I suggest you read it it might help.

But if you want some information right now;
one of the key elements of marriage is sex. that is how a man and a woman become one flesh again as they were before they were separated when God created woman out of adam's rib. Therefore this state is where man and woman best reflect God, it is a very holy thing and some would say that it is the most innocent and beautiful form of worship when the holy Spirit joins you together in a way that glorifies God. It therefore is a vulnerable thing and must be protected, so before you have sex you must be joined before God by his spirit. This is the importance of marriage. (I will go on to the procreational side in a mo). This is why it is so attacked by Satan, the last thing he wants is for you to Glorify God in this way.
If you have sex outside marriage it is like facing a hostile army naked on the top of a hill, you can be exposed to all kinds of demons and schemes of the enemy aimed at driving a wedge between you and your partner. Entering into a marriage contract before God is like entering into a strong stone fortress, you are protected by Him.

As far as children go, that is a key part of both marriage and sex the main point of getting married in the past was to create a safe place for children to be raised. If you live together and raise a child without being married in the sight of God, it is like putting a child on the top of a mound of rubble rather than inside the stronghold and expecting it to be safe from the marauding army! No parent wishes this obviously!

so what makes the difference? well God forms covenants with his children, he formed a covenant with Abraham which on his part was him committing to all the promises hed given. In marriage He is commiting himself to you as much as you are to your partner, the best marriages are always where both memebers focus on God first and their partner second, God is the unifying factor he sits in the middle between you, in a secular marriage it is only twofold - you and your partner and not threefold, which is part of the way it reflects God, by mirroring the trinity.

In the old and new testaments the covenant was made with blood, and that is why the hymen is broken on the first night, if you have slept with someone else many suggest that in the sight of God that is your husband... but he is a God of grace and for those who have that problem healing is free and available! So why have a ceremony if the first night counts? Well.... Id want to be sure, I wouldnt want to risk exposing my marriage to Satan right from the start, thats a recipe for disaster... but likewise there is healing and freedom available from God for anyone who has this problem.

I think Ive given a slightly different view to those above so maybe it goes closer to answering your question. another good book is "the ancient paths" but right now I cant think who its by, that is where the hilltop analogy comes from, if you want to know I can find out for you.

God bless you and your fiancee

amatire
 
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To Lambslove:

Once again, you have accused me of "cutting and pasting" something from a Catholic website, and once again, I tell you all words, UNLESS THEY ARE QUOTED IN THE GREY BOX, are mine and mine alone. I'm a WRITER, for crying out loud. I have a way with words. It's my Spiritual Gift.

I really resent being accused of plagiarism when I have done nothing of the kind.


Peace,
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Originally posted by VOW
You seem to be looking for something nobody can provide, Lambslove. You sure you WANT to get married?


Peace,
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If you're going to make a judgmental statement like this one, make sure you know what you're talking about. This statement is so offensive.
 
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To ThienAn:

I posted from my heart, and Lambslove said my words were "rhetoric," that she was looking for something MORE.

No matter what anyone had said, she kept saying, "No, I'm looking for something else."

THEN she accused me of plagiarism!

I found THAT to be offensive!



~VOW
 
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OK..ok...let's all pull back just a minute here.

Lambslove specifically asked that responses not include Catholic doctorine in nature. Let's keep that in mind.

Let us also keep in mind the rules of the forum and offer Christian courtesy (note especially to former moderators). We need to afford kindness and mercy to each other ~ whether or not we like someones writing style or their denominiational backgrounds.

And if someone is using resources from other websites, Lambslove, I trust they will make sure to credit the proper authors. Otherwise it is safe to assume someone is sharing their heartfelt beliefs.

Peace.
 
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Originally posted by VOW
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Some of my work is posted in the Catholic forum.


~VOW

No, I was asking how it became known to yourself that your ability to write is a spiritual gift? How did you come to understand that your writing skills are spiritual gift?
 
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To ThienAn:

From the remarks by people who have read what I have written. Not only from my stories, but from people who have thanked me for what I have said, and the way I have presented ideas, understandings, and even definitions here in the Christian Forums.


Peace be with you,
~VOW
 
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Originally posted by VOW
To ThienAn:

From the remarks by people who have read what I have written. Not only from my stories, but from people who have thanked me for what I have said, and the way I have presented ideas, understandings, and even definitions here in the Christian Forums.


Peace be with you,
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So, it became known to you because of what people told you?
 
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To ThienAn:

Writing is a form of communication. By receiving positive feedback from others, and hearing them express their comprehension at exactly WHAT I was trying to communicate, yes, indeed, my ability was validated by others. Hearing them express delight and understanding and appreciation that my words convey something they have always believed, but had never been able to convey to another is indeed confirmation of my abilities.

What is the point you are trying to make?



Peace,
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Originally posted by VOW
To ThienAn:

Writing is a form of communication. By receiving positive feedback from others, and hearing them express their comprehension at exactly WHAT I was trying to communicate, yes, indeed, my ability was validated by others. Hearing them express delight and understanding and appreciation that my words convey something they have always believed, but had never been able to convey to another is indeed confirmation of my abilities.

What is the point you are trying to make?

No, I don't have any point that I'm trying to make. I was merely trying to understand how a person come to realize what he/she has is a spiritual gift.

I guess, the bible tells us of several spiritual gifts. But nowadays, how can we differentiate between abilities & spiritual gifts? If it's abilities then we better call it that, but if it's really a spiritual gift, then we shouldn't call it abilities. In other words, I wouldn't want to claim to have spiritual gift when I really don't.

I guess I'll start new thread with this issue and see what everybody thinks.
 
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To ThienAn:

I guess I'll start new thread with this issue and see what everybody thinks.

I'd like that. Take it to the Protestants, Catholics, and Jewish Meeting Place. I bet we learn a lot of interesting things!


Peace be with you,
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Originally posted by lambslove
Hmm, but there is more to Christian marriage than secular marriage, right?

It isn't just mushy love and sex to we who belong to the Lord, is it?

Actually, I personally don't think there's an inherent difference. We have a different view of what marriage *IS* - but I believe that my agnostic friends have a union that is unambiguously blessed by God.

It's like this: I believe morality comes from God, but I know people who are moral even though they aren't Christian. Nonetheless, they react with revulsion to the idea of acting with malicious intent - so, even if they disagree with me about *why* that's wrong, they are in tune with that aspect of God's plan for us.

So... I don't think there's anything that only us Christians can discover in marriage; I think that God made people to find joy and fulfillment in each other, and that people found these things in marriage long before Christ's time, and that people exist today who have such relationships even though they aren't Christian.

That said, I think there is no better source for relationship advice than Christ's teachings. Learning to remember your love for someone even when you find yourselves in conflict (and you will!) is a great gift.
 
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Well, one way a Christian marriage is different from a secular marriage is God is the authority over a Christian marriage. A Christian husband and wife get down on their knees and pray together for guidance and seek God's will for their marriage. If a Christian couple are having some differences, it's amazing how submitting to God takes away our pride and "need to be right" about a problem.

lambslove, I know you don't want to hear personal stories, but that's all I know to tell is my own story. I've also been married for 28 years and all I know is you learn as you go. So all I know to tell you is my own experience.:sigh:
 
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"It matters what your neigbors think because Christians are told to avoid even the *appearence* of evil.
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NO, it doesn't. You're not looking at the whole picture. Only God's opnion matters, no one else's because if you fall in line with him, all other things fall into place.
 
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I'd vastly disagree. There is a MAJOR difference between a secular marrage and a christian one. In a Christian one God is at the center of the marrage. He comes first in everything. By pleasing him you will draw closer together they way no secular married people can even comprehend.
 
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