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You bet.Shimshon or SGM4HIM, may I please ask for a link to Derek's page or website? I'm interested in their views also. I do have the link to FFOZ, just the other is new to me. Thanks.
My father once told me that for every spiritual blessing, there is a spiritual counterfeit that often appears parallel. From the days of the rampant selling of indulgences in the Middle Ages to such examples as stated above, there are always forces pulling in both directions. How many traditional Christians have "jumped on the Messianic bandwagon" to discover that the roots (and branches!) of Christianity are far more powerful than they ever imagined? Yes, such stories are frustrating, even infuriating! Such things are usually a sign that something else, somewhere, is going right. You've certainly got this Anglican thinking about her Jewish roots!
Im realllllly curious to find out who is passing out tracts in their Congregations?
Im asking if MJs are passing out tracts in the Jewish community or if their congregations do it.....Seems MJs have a pretty bad reputation for doing that and I just wanna get an idea of how many are represented here.
BTW- I have recently visited several anti-missionary websites and was very surprised by the amount of misinformation and hostile tone toward MJ and Christianity. It's one thing to say I don't believe Jesus fullfiled the messianic requirements based on scriptures a,b,e&h. etc. and have a civil tone; but they have gone way beyond this.
My hope would be that hurt or dissatisfied Christians that go there to explore their Hebrew roots, would spend and equal or greater amount of time at Michael Brown and FFOZ and other MJ scholarly sites to get a "fair and balanced" view.
I must be living with my head in the sand!! MJs have tracts????? MJs street evangelizing?? Or am I misunderstanding?
The congregation I was first a part of never did street witnessing. We passed out socks, coats, gloves, etc. to the homeless in the big cities in the winter, but it was done without making them listen to pay for their warmth. If they asked, we answered. We built a few orphanages and schools in 3rd world countries and supported them. And we supported a few congregations in Russia, China, and Israel, but we did no street evangelizing at all. We just lived our lives to be seen by whoever had eyes to see.
Where I'm at now, the congregation is way too small and scattered to have any kind of organization that doing that would entail.
But, i've not seen the evangelical Jews for Jesus type of missionary in almost 10 yrs. And I live in a relatively big city. I think it was almost 8yrs ago that I ran into a J4J booth in a mall right before hanukkah. They had those tye-dyed type candles that caught my eye. Spent about 4 min talking to them. Never was my thing..... J4J.
But no, i've not seen any Messianic Jews who evangelize. Most are Messianic gentiles who do this, from my experience.
Im asking if MJs are passing out tracts in the Jewish community or if their congregations do it.....Seems MJs have a pretty bad reputation for doing that and I just wanna get an idea of how many are represented here.
As a Messianic Jew the traditional Jewish community has and will shun you out from most all communal activities. I was accepted all my life till I started expressing faith in Yeshua. The traditional communities will have nothing to do with 'Messies who believe in Yeshu' as they like to call us. Then they go so far as to deride your Jewishness.
By around here I presume you mean 'in your community'? I am sorry, but this has not been my experience. I appreciate the intent of your words though.Messianics would be welcome in the community around here so long as they aren't trying to get others to accept Jesus.
Messianics would be welcome in the community around here so long as they aren't trying to get others to accept Jesus.
No in fact I havent seen any groups like that since the late 70s early 80s like Shimshon said and none at all in the MJ community......Ive been shopping and dinning in Orthodox Jewish communities(LA/Hollywood area) and there weren't any there either, I have friends who live up there I will ask them.....Tish - as far as I know the only ones passing out tracts are the J4Js. Unless its one of those churches that mascarade as MJs. I'm not aware of any in the UMJC. Are there any you know of?
I dont know about with in their communities as Ive yet to share my faith with any Jew who isnt asking me first or isnt a believer first, but when we do things together and no one's in the other persons face, we do get along and enjoy each other's groups, but these are neutral settings or happen at our congregation not theirsAgreed. Thats how it is in the most communities I ever been or communicated with. I am always welcome in any, even pretty orthodox one, as long as one is respectful to other people's faith, why not?Actually that is true to most churches as well, as long as person is not showing disagreement with their beliefs, he is welcome.
When in Rome, do as romans do ....
I dont know about with in their communities as Ive yet to share my faith with any Jew who isnt asking me first or isnt a believer first, but when we do things together and no one's in the other persons face, we do get along and enjoy each other's groups, but these are neutral settings or happen at our congregation not theirs
I havent seen any animosity but I have seen caution coming from these groups....gee no wonder if we are falsely labeled missionaries in their communities!
LOL! I almost spit rice all over my computer!We had arranged for a nice lady(we figured an MG) to pick up him and his family, the nice lady has a very nice large car, larger than our TDI Jetta. Well, she called early this morning and proceeded to tell the wife and I how she was going to give him and his wife her knock-out "witness" once they were safely "trapped" in her car(her choice of the word "trapped"). She said; "they'll have to listen". Oh joy, oh rupture!!
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