What if you believe but don't repent of your sins?

[Kenny'sID]

Yes. And I will stop arguing with hell-bound devils. I rebuke you satan in the mighty name of Jesus Christ.

I think you are actually excusing yourself from the conversation before you are proven wrong...oh, well.

 

[Justified_By_Christ_Alone]

Must we be good in oppp


No argument at all, and thank you for anwering the following question:



You answered yes to that, in that we don't have to do good to get to heaven. Now please read the following and answer once more. Does Jesus say there we do or do not have to do good in order to get to heaven...also a simple question.

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."

Notice how Jesus disagrees with you 100%?

That verse is talking about you. You have done EVIL by rejecting the gospel and still trusting in your works. Those who believe receive imputed righteousness. Nice try at scripture twisting.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

Yes. And I will stop arguing with hell-bound devils. I rebuke you satan in the mighty name of Jesus Christ.

He's not a hell-bound devil if he is seeking God...

 

[Kenny'sID]

That verse is talking about you. You have done EVIL by rejecting the gospel and still trusting in your works. Those who believe receive imputed righteousness. Nice try at scripture twisting.

Again, you did not answer the question.

I think you are misunderstanding, and where did I twist scripture? Please point that out. It really is simple...you said we don't need to do good in order to get to heavevn, and Jesus said in the scripture there we do have to do good.

See your error now?

So you see, I do depend on Christ for savation, and I also depend on what he teaches, as that is part of believing in and depending on Christ.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Just a general thought, people really do not like being shown they have to do something in order to get to heaven. I sometimes wonder what sin these people are commiting that they love so much, they are willing to deny what the bible tells them as means to justify doing that sin/sins.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

Again, you did not answer the questionl

I think you are misunderstanding. It really is simple...you said we don't need to do good in order to get to heavevn, and Jesus said in the scripture there we do have to do good.

See your error now?

But here's the thing about that. Once you believe in Jesus and he saves you, it's impossible for you to do evil or sin ever again. It sounds weird but that's what the Bible teaches in this verse:

1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

Basically what happens when you believe in Jesus, is that Jesus washes you white as snow and you can never sin again. Past present and future sins are all gone.

 

[Kenny'sID]

But here's the thing about that. Once you believe in Jesus and he saves you, it's impossible for you to do evil or sin ever again. It sounds weird but that's what the Bible teaches in this vers

Of course we can still sin. I've heard that taught by a very few, and it doesn't go over very well here.

1 John 1:8

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

I believe the sripture you are referring to is saying we dont sin on a regular basis.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

So you see, I do depend on Christ for savation, and I also depend on what he teaches, as that is part of believing in and depending on Christ.

That's the problem right there. You need to depend 100% on Jesus for salvation, not just 50% or whatever. Not his teachings, just Jesus. Just remove the "and" part and everything that came after it and you're good to go.

If you believe 50% in Jesus, but 50% something else, here's what it's like. It's like having one foot on the train station, and one foot inside the train. What is going to happen when the train leaves? Not anything good. It's going to split you in half. The train is like Jesus. The destination is like heaven. How do you get to the destination? By getting all the way inside the train.

 

[Kenny'sID]

That's the problem right there. You need to depend 100% on Jesus for salvation, not just 50% or whatever. Not his teachings, just Jesus. Just remove the "and" part and everything that came after it and you're good to go.

If you believe 50% in Jesus, but 50% something else, here's what it's like. It's like having one foot on the train station, and one foot inside the train. What is going to happen when the train leaves? Not anything good. It's going to split you in half. The train is like Jesus. The destination is like heaven. How do you get to the destination? By getting all the way inside the train.

Seriousely, we don't have to depend on Jesus's teachings? Did you really say that? I think you need to stop depending on who is teaching you, because it is most certianly not Jesus. Jesus's teachings ARE Jesus, and what Christ says/tells us to do is all we have from him, otherwise you are believing in nothing. We are nothing without our thoughts, just a vegetable.

You apparently were not paying attention to the scripture.

Once again, read the following scripture by none other than Jesus Christ himself, and then answer this one simple question. Do we have to do good in order to make it to heaven?

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."

No idea where you get your 50% thing from, I can only assume you are just making it up out of the clear blue. I trust in Christ 100% to save me, and I will prove I have faith in him by doing as he says, and not just claim I have that faith. Faith without works is dead.

Hope you will answer the question there honestly, its as simple as yes or no.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Nvm... I'm not discussing anything with such a person.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Yes. And I will stop arguing with hell-bound devils. I rebuke you satan in the mighty name of Jesus Christ.

This is uncalled for.... for real.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

Seriousely, we don't have to depend on Jesus's teachings? Did you really say that?

Yes I said that because salvation is a free gift. Just like a free gift in real life is free, the free gift that the Bible talks about is also free. You don't need to have any works before nor after salvation, because a free gift is not earned by works. Otherwise it wouldn't really be free.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Yes I said that because salvation is a free gift. Just like a free gift in real life is free, the free gift that the Bible talks about is also free. You don't need to have any works before nor after salvation, because a free gift is not earned by works. Otherwise it wouldn't really be free.

If you are unable to understand someting as simple as listening to Christ and diong what he says, IS beliving in him, you are too
far gone for me to reach.

Sad,

 

[Psalm 27]

What if someone doesn't repent of their sins but they still believe in Jesus? Do you think people like that going to hell?

I’ve been pondering this for a while. There are things that I have done, terrible things, which I don’t do anymore, but don’t feel like I’ve fully repented, as in been truly sorry.

 

[TexFire316]

Rebellion is rebellion. Taking God lightly like you do your friends is not only unwise, its downright dangerous. Whether you worship Jehovah or one of the created gods (elders). Go ahead, keep treating Him lightly until He puts you directly in His crosshairs.