What if the rapture was tomorrow?

[Seeking Him]

One day the rapture will be tomorrow!!

IMO we should encourage one another to live for the Lord so that on that day we all will hear the words 'Well done my good and faithful servant'. Compared to eternity the here and now doesnt actually compare!

Let us put off things that offend the Lord. Let us pray without ceasing and take very opportunity to witness. Let us love one another!

Find an elderly, lonely, poor or depressed person and befriend that person. You might actually be saving their life and eternal soul by doing this! The needy are not hard to find. No matter how financially or socially needy we are there is always someone more needy than yourself!

You reminded me of where Jesus said "Come you blessed of my Father, to the kingdom prepared for you. For when I was hungry, you gave me something to eat. I was a stranger and you invited me in. I was sick and you looked after me.Whatever you did for the least of these, you did for me.

Jesus could be walking around in those people we least expect, that hurting person near us, who is afraid to ask for help.

 

[lismore]

You reminded me of where Jesus said "Come you blessed of my Father, to the kingdom prepared for you. For when I was hungry, you gave me something to eat. I was a stranger and you invited me in. I was sick and you looked after me.Whatever you did for the least of these, you did for me.

Jesus could be walking around in those people we least expect, that hurting person near us, who is afraid to ask for help.

Absolutely

We are coming up to Christmas and New Year when the lonely and vulnerable feel even more lonely and vulnerable. Reaching out to even one person could change their life and their eternal destination. And it is something that will stand the test on the day of the Lord.

 

[1usul1]

I wouldn't have to sit my exam. Come on Rapture.

 

[He put me back together]

Maybe we should live for God because we love Him.

>_>

 

[Faulty]

Yeah, but if the rapture came tomorrow all of the moderators would be gone, right?

Hmmm. Don't know.

Guess it depends on the forum rules concerning the ratpure.

 

[Yekcidmij]

If there were a rapture and it were tomorrow, so what?


Shouldn't I be giving the Lord my all every day irregardless of what happens tomorrow?

 

[irenemcg]

This was a poem the Lord gave me a few years ago regarding this.


WHAT WOULD I DO?

If I knew the rapture was definitely going to occur next week,
What would I do? Would it change me?
Would I just go through the motions as normal,
In the knowledge that I am alright, my Saviour is coming for me.

What about all the people I see around me?
Those I have yet to witness to; if no-one tells them how can they see?.
Would I shout Christ’s name from the mountain tops?
Would fear or anything be able to make me stop?

What about mindless pursuits, would I carry on just like before?
Would I watch the films on TV and pretend the actors never swore?
Or would I spend time, praising the Lord’s Name and praying for those around me?
Would my actions, my thoughts and all of my desires proclaim Jesus in me?

Irene McGough 2003

 

[EternalSummer]

There is no secret rapture. It's a myth. When Christ comes again, every eye will see Him. It won't be a secret event, sorry.

 

[JimB]

There is no secret rapture. It's a myth. When Christ comes again, every eye will see Him. It won't be a secret event, sorry.

It appears, for anyone willing to read beyond LaHaye and Hagee, that there was no such thing as a doctrine of the “rapture” prior to the creation of Dispensationalism by John Nelson Darby in the 1800’s. The dispensational model of a secret rapture of the church prior to the second coming of Christ was popularized by Scofield, Moody, Torrey, Eerdman, Gordon, Blackstone and a host of others of the DTS mold during the early part of the 20th century and, in more recent times, by Dallas Theological Seminary, Hal Lindsey, John Waalvoord, Tim LaHaye and John Hagee., who have all made a cottage industry out of the doctrine.

~Jim

When you gonna wake up and strengthen the things that remain? ~Bob Dylan, 1979​

 

[EternalSummer]

Right ... a false teaching.

 

[Alpine]

It appears, for anyone willing to read beyond LaHaye and Hagee, that there was no such thing as a doctrine of the “rapture” prior to the creation of Dispensationalism by John Nelson Darby in the 1800’s. The dispensational model of a secret rapture of the church prior to the second coming of Christ was popularized by Scofield, Moody, Torrey, Eerdman, Gordon, Blackstone and a host of others of the DTS mold during the early part of the 20th century and, in more recent times, by Dallas Theological Seminary, Hal Lindsey, John Waalvoord, Tim LaHaye and John Hagee., who have all made a cottage industry out of the doctrine.

~Jim

When you gonna wake up and strengthen the things that remain? ~Bob Dylan, 1979​

Exactly!

 

[irenemcg]

Maybe this should be moved to the debate section because some of us believe there will be a rapture and a Second coming.

harpazō

- catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).

1Th 4:15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

1Th 5:9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

At one time I thought a doctrinal understanding and believing in the rapture was of such great importance and I did not consider any other interpretation could possibly be correct, that is not where I am at any longer.

We all I hope agree that Jesus is coming again and that is what is of tantamount importance. Their will be a Second Coming.

 

[Faulty]

It appears, for anyone willing to read beyond LaHaye and Hagee, that there was no such thing as a doctrine of the “rapture” prior to the creation of Dispensationalism by John Nelson Darby in the 1800’s. The dispensational model of a secret rapture of the church prior to the second coming of Christ was popularized by Scofield, Moody, Torrey, Eerdman, Gordon, Blackstone and a host of others of the DTS mold during the early part of the 20th century and, in more recent times, by Dallas Theological Seminary, Hal Lindsey, John Waalvoord, Tim LaHaye and John Hagee., who have all made a cottage industry out of the doctrine.

~Jim

When you gonna wake up and strengthen the things that remain? ~Bob Dylan, 1979​

Not true actually, even though the teaching did disappear around the time the Catholic Church came to power. But if you choose to strip yourself of this hope He gave us then its entirely your choice to make.

 

[ANM29]

Yep, they are making millions off this doctrine and there is no secret rapture..what a joke......

 

[lismore]

I look at this verse:


7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way {2 Thess 2:7}.

What restraining influence can be taken out of the way?

I think thats referring to the church being taken out of the way in the rapture.

As the angel said to Lot:

Genesis 19:22
But flee there quickly, because I cannot do anything until you reach it." (That is why the town was called Zoar. )

Judgement could not be poured out until the believer {Lot} had got safe away. Judgement cannot be poured out on the earth until the church is safe away.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Not true actually, even though the teaching did disappear around the time the Catholic Church came to power. But if you choose to strip yourself of this hope He gave us then its entirely your choice to make.

Exactly what is this hope? That we don't have to endure?

I Thessalonians 4:16-18
"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

We are to encourage each other that at some point we will meet the Lord in the air. We don't know when this even will happen...just that it will happen.

There is certainly a lot of speculation and teachings regarding the subject but I don't put much stock in most of it.

Every time there as been a dated prediction of the "rapture" people have put themselves in dept up to their yingyang with the thought they won't have to pay it back 'cause they will get taken in the rapture.

I think too many are expecting to just not have to face their responsibilities as a believer living on this earth. They have the hope that "any day now" they will just get taken away and there messes will just be left behind for someone else to deal with.

In my opinion that is certaintly not the LORD'S way of dealing with our lives here on earth. Not that you're saying it is, it's just a thought I had when I read your post.

 

[lismore]

It appears, for anyone willing to read beyond LaHaye and Hagee, that there was no such thing as a doctrine of the “rapture” prior to the creation of Dispensationalism by John Nelson Darby in the 1800’s.

I remember you teaching that before on another thread and being told about a character called Ephraim the Syrian. He lived in the 4th century AD and taught on the rapture.

For your information here is what the laddie wrote:

"For all the saints and the Elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins." {373AD}.

Here is a weblink that might be of interest to ye:

http://www.raptureme.com/terry/james27.html

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Exactly what is this hope? That we don't have to endure?

I Thessalonians 4:16-18
"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

We are to encourage each other that at some point we will meet the Lord in the air. We don't know when this even will happen...just that it will happen.

There is certainly a lot of speculation and teachings regarding the subject but I don't put much stock in most of it.

Every time there as been a dated prediction of the "rapture" people have put themselves in dept up to their yingyang with the thought they won't have to pay it back 'cause they will get taken in the rapture.

I think too many are expecting to just not have to face their responsibilities as a believer living on this earth. They have the hope that "any day now" they will just get taken away and there messes will just be left behind for someone else to deal with.

In my opinion that is certaintly not the LORD'S way of dealing with our lives here on earth. Not that you're saying it is, it's just a thought I had when I read your post.

FaultySurplus and Anm29, can you hear those verses SP showed?

Now we might all have the timing off, but believers will be caught up in the air to meet Jesus when He comes. But the first snatching away will be the wicked from the earth - it's a snatching down to hell actually. But being 'safe away' is Spiritually now it means to be IN CHRIST - IN THE ARK AND OUT OF SODOM AND GORMORAH.

 

[Faulty]

I'm not going to debate the rapture with any of you here for a number of reasons.

1. This is not the debate forum.

2. I have noticed the upswing in false teaching over the last two years that has taken away the hope of many concerning the rapture. People who should know better have chosen to let their eyes be closed regarding this issue and no amount of 'debating' on my part with them will cause them to open their eyes again.

3. I simply have no desire to revive what we all already know just so those with their eyes closed can rely on each other to strengthen their resolve over this error, much like the universalism thread.

Like-minded rapture doctrine is simply not a requirement for anything. If you choose to live your life without it, that's your choice. My choice is to not participate in a strife-building argument over it.

 

[Faulty]

Exactly what is this hope? That we don't have to endure?

I Thessalonians 4:16-18
"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

We are to encourage each other that at some point we will meet the Lord in the air. We don't know when this even will happen...just that it will happen.

There is certainly a lot of speculation and teachings regarding the subject but I don't put much stock in most of it.

Every time there as been a dated prediction of the "rapture" people have put themselves in dept up to their yingyang with the thought they won't have to pay it back 'cause they will get taken in the rapture.

I think too many are expecting to just not have to face their responsibilities as a believer living on this earth. They have the hope that "any day now" they will just get taken away and there messes will just be left behind for someone else to deal with.

In my opinion that is certaintly not the LORD'S way of dealing with our lives here on earth. Not that you're saying it is, it's just a thought I had when I read your post.

Did you see a date in my post? I didn't see a date in my post. Anyone else see a date in my post???