What home schooling hides: A boy tortured and starved by his stepmom

[Lukaris]

There have been posts in sympathy for Roman. What people are suspicious of in this particular thread is that it is broken homes in general in which children are victims. Some of us are suspicious that the overall intent of this thread is to stigmatize home schooling families in general.

 

[Pommer]

There have been posts in sympathy for Roman. What people are suspicious of in this particular thread is that it is broken homes in general in which children are victims. Some of us are suspicious that the overall intent of this thread is to stigmatize home schooling families in general.

The overall intent is to make sure that children don’t “get lost” by being outside “the system”.

 

[Lukaris]

The overall intent is to make sure that children don’t “get lost” by being outside “the system”.

Perhaps (?) in this particular instance.

On a social level perhaps not.

Primary Reason Behind Homeschooling is Lack of Safety in the Public Schools

Professor Elizabeth Bartholet claims homeschooling should be restricted because students are safer in public school. But parents say safety concerns in public schools are precisely why they choose homeschooling.

hslda.org

 

[Pommer]

Perhaps (?) in this particular instance.

On a social level perhaps not.

Primary Reason Behind Homeschooling is Lack of Safety in the Public Schools

Professor Elizabeth Bartholet claims homeschooling should be restricted because students are safer in public school. But parents say safety concerns in public schools are precisely why they choose homeschooling.

hslda.org

Are we not allowed to agree?

 

[ralliann]

I heard a story once about a man who killed his wife. That's what marriage hides. We should ban marriage.

LOL. Really.

Loudoun County schools covered up rape ... - Washington Examiner​

Because of transgender agenda of school
Sent the kid to another school, he did it again. Of course it was hidden so nobody there was nothing To stop him/her at second school.

Mary Katherine "Mary Kay" Fualaau (née Schmitz, formerly Letourneau; January 30, 1962 – July 6, 2020), was an American sex offender and teacher who pleaded guilty in 1997 to two counts of felony second-degree rape of a child.

 

[DaisyDay]

LOL. Really.

Loudoun County schools covered up rape ... - Washington Examiner​

Because of transgender agenda of school
Sent the kid to another school, he did it again. Of course it was hidden so nobody there was nothing To stop him/her at second school.

Mary Katherine "Mary Kay" Fualaau (née Schmitz, formerly Letourneau; January 30, 1962 – July 6, 2020), was an American sex offender and teacher who pleaded guilty in 1997 to two counts of felony second-degree rape of a child.

Mary Kay Fualaau - isn't that the last name of the child she raped? They're married now? ----No, she died while they were separated, so now he is a widower.

One big improvement over the past is that women raping men and particularly minors, is no longer considered a "joke" but taken seriously and punished.

 

[ralliann]

Mary Kay Fualaau - isn't that the last name of the child she raped? They're married now? ----No, she died while they were separated, so now he is a widower.

Yes, they did get married, pretty sure. If I recall his mother had no problem with it?

One big improvement over the past is that women raping men and particularly minors, is no longer considered a "joke" but taken seriously and punished.

Yes, this imo is true.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Yes, this imo is true.

In other words: something bad happened, and things have changed in response. So why the pushback when it comes to making changes to the homeschooling system after something bad happened?

 

[ralliann]

In other words: something bad happened, and things have changed in response. So why the pushback when it comes to making changes to the homeschooling system after something bad happened?

Why would changes to the school system be an issue? She was punished, just like a male teacher. The Change is perception of female vs male perpetrators
Females were not taken with equal seriousness. That changed.
If there was some obvious issue with the system that allowed this, then the system would be adjusted if reasonable. It wasn't.

 

[ralliann]

The overall intent is to make sure that children don’t “get lost” by being outside “the system”.

They can "get lost" in the system too.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

My limited experiences with Home schooling has nothing like abuse, murder, or any other major crimes. I just saw how well the parents were able to take the tests for the kids so that the kids could graduate.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Why would changes to the school system be an issue? She was punished, just like a male teacher. The Change is perception of female vs male perpetrators
Females were not taken with equal seriousness. That changed.

It doesn't matter where the problem lies or where the change was made - the point is that a change was made to address the problem. You agree with it in one case, but condemn it in another.

If there was some obvious issue with the system that allowed this, then the system would be adjusted if reasonable. It wasn't.

There are obvious issues - if a child does not regularly interact with mandatory reporters, an abusive home life can be more easily hidden. If no one knows that a child is being homeschooled, there is no way to easily check on them. Adjustments have been suggested to correct these issues, but it is rejected because certain people don't like it.

 

[ralliann]

My limited experiences with Home schooling has nothing like abuse, murder, or any other major crimes. I just saw how well the parents were able to take the tests for the kids so that the kids could graduate.

There are plenty of kids graduating that cannot do basic math, or reading. I think it is more prevalent

 

[Pommer]

In other words: something bad happened, and things have changed in response. So why the pushback when it comes to making changes to the homeschooling system after something bad happened?

Normal=“outrage” now.
Things happen that are supposed to happen but it’s “bad” now because “total parental freedom” is paramount.

 

[Lukaris]

There are whole districts of kids “in the system” that are failing and the cities in which this happens are failing. Poverty, crime, etc. contribute to social breakdown but we have to, first & foremost, make presumptions about homeschooling on a broad scale to find out what is wrong because we know something is fishy.

Here is a major example of system failure:

Just do a general search on google and see the roll out of articles on the failed school system in Baltimore, MD.

baltimore school failure - Google Search

Look at crime data in Baltimore, MD

Crime in Baltimore - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Look at what failed public institutions in places like Baltimore then let’s see what problems exist in home schooling. Is it any coincidence that alongside this massive public education failure that home schooling is at record levels in Maryland? I guess in light of these circumstances, the intent of the title of this thread must not view an increase in home schooling like this as acceptable.

Homeschooling numbers in Maryland rise as public enrollment drops - Maryland Daily Record

In the spring of 2020, the face of education changed drastically throughout the United States as the COVID-19 pandemic spread. And Maryland was no exception.

thedailyrecord.com

 

[ralliann]

There are whole districts of kids “in the system” that are failing and the cities in which this happens are failing. Poverty, crime, etc. contribute to social breakdown but we have to, first & foremost, make presumptions about homeschooling on a broad scale to find out what is wrong because we know something is fishy.

Here is a major example of system failure:

Just do a general search on google and see the roll out of articles on the failed school system in Baltimore, MD.

baltimore school failure - Google Search

Look at crime data in Baltimore, MD

Crime in Baltimore - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Look at what failed public institutions in places like Baltimore then let’s see what problems exist in home schooling. Is it any coincidence that alongside this massive public education failure that home schooling is at record levels in Maryland? I guess in light of these circumstances, the intent of the title of this thread must not view an increase in home schooling like this as acceptable.

Homeschooling numbers in Maryland rise as public enrollment drops - Maryland Daily Record

In the spring of 2020, the face of education changed drastically throughout the United States as the COVID-19 pandemic spread. And Maryland was no exception.

thedailyrecord.com

Absenteeism (truancy) is also up.
The description to my comments here "Something bad happens" and I react differently, was false, both to what I said, and the Issue.
Bad things happen. You cannot stop bad things from happening.
As you say, there is bad things happening in public education as well.
Is there enough to say it is a serious problem with home schooling? This is the first issue. The second is reasonable steps to reduce or stop, a serious problem. Not stopping a bad thing from happening. Bad things happen, you cannot create a world that nothing bad ever happens.
To reduce a conversation to that level, and to distort comments of others to that level is wasted time.

 

[ralliann]

I heard a story once about a man who killed his wife. That's what marriage hides. We should ban marriage.

The boy's father has also been found to be involved in Child inappropriate contentography. A girl he lived with in a rented house.An article copy and pasted below from LAW & CRIME

"COLIN KALMBACHER Oct 24th, 2023, 7:26 pm
The FBI secured a warrant for a GoPro SPTM1 and the defendant’s cellphone. The FBI determined that Jordan Piper had removed the camera from behind a wall outlet in the bathroom of a rental home in Groveland, California, where he and the minor girl lived. A further search uncovered “many videos” of the minor victim “using the bathroom and bathing, where her genitals were visible.”

A search of the phone turned up even more.

“Approximately 433 nude images of Minor Victim 1 were found on Jordan Piper’s cell phone in the cache and screenshots section of the phone, as well as cache folders and screenshot folders in a secure folder on the phone,” federal agents wrote in a criminal complaint." End quote

I chose this Article because the others did not provide a clear indication whose home these Photos were taken. Of course it is to be expected that information is limited to the public to protect Minor children. All one Article mentioned was "family home". This article tells us it was a rental of his where she lived with him.
No mention of her parents, or any other information of her living situation. How does a minor live with someone else like this? Someone had legal custody and responsibility, or not. Foster care perhaps? Or is it possible this girl was trafficked? . The point is this girl was in the system she had parents that just somehow are never mentioned (why their daughter lived with this guy) or a in the foster system, or a victim of illegal trafficking. Yet, only homeschooling is blamed within the very same story.
The missing children the government has lost track of with unaccompanied minors of illegal immigration, were lost in the system. Where are the headlines?