The original sims still had the sex if I'm not mistaken.
When you realize all a game comes down to is countless strings of binary, it's impossible (for me at least) to see how it breaks any commandments.
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I don't have a problem playing it in the living room with my 5 yr old son running around, but I still think they made the game without before and everyone still liked it, so I believe it is unnecessary in a game.
Its against God's law for polygons to shoot other polygons?
well one game i can think up with is dead or alive extreem beach volleyball... that game sells lust and other negative concpets.
The original sims still had the sex if I'm not mistaken.
When you realize all a game comes down to is countless strings of binary, it's impossible (for me at least) to see how it breaks any commandments.
i am sorry, but I am a conceptions challenger. where there is old traditions, I challenge the ideas. sorry again and good-bye.
Countless strings of binary result in a very interactive and realistic gamming experience which can induce lust among other things that Christians concider sin. That is the point.
We can't pretend that things concider sin are exempt from videogames and there are lots of games that don't suffer from this.
Pixels and polygons can't mask this or neither can they be a justification in certain cases.
Movies are pixels as well but we know how bad they can be.
This is a poor argument point, one that seems dellusional. I'm not comparing the Sims2 to this, but pornographic anime is just pixels and pornographic novels and fiction are just based on some idea in someone's head but they still cause people to stumble.Movies are pixels, yes, but those pixels form the image of a real person.
Games are not real. They are not real images. You can't project the same morality onto a game.
Quoted and limed for truth. Morality swings two ways.Because feeding a homeless man in a game is like feeding a homeless man in real life.
I sure hope those aren't the same reasons you stay away from the GTA series. If you stay away from the GTA games because they're badly-made and thus badly-rated, you're staying away from them for a reason that doesn't exist.Due to the same reasons I hate the GTA series, I stay the heck away from The Sims 2, Playboy Mansion (ooh a game based on a pr0n0 mag, how wonderfully different), and Black & White 2.
Why?
Because they're badly-made and thus badly-rated (by professional gamers and game reviewers alike) games!
I think if you cant differentiate between immages on a screen then you DEFINATELY shouldnt play games.As Christians, I think that sex that occures in games like GTA cannot be justified under the name of pixels and videogames. They are not real but lust can come out of them and at some point, the fact that its a mere videogame cannot justify it.
Are videogames free of sin because they are mere pixels, no, but where do we draw the line? I think games like GTA are beyond whatever the line might be.
This is a poor argument point, one that seems dellusional. I'm not comparing the Sims2 to this, but pornographic anime is just pixels and pornographic novels and fiction are just based on some idea in someone's head but they still cause people to stumble.
Morality is not projected onto a game, but the user. Some things you judge for yourself about your own reaction to them and if they are causing you to sin, other things you judge by what Christian witness you are producing by what you do and if your actions that may be harmless to you are really making another person stumble.
I think if you cant differentiate between immages on a screen then you DEFINATELY shouldnt play games.
Its ridiculous to think if you de-humanize someone in a game, then you'll de-humanize the same people in the real world. It is a HUGE leap for a person to jump from pictures on a screen to the real world. True there are people who do it, but these are not healthy individuals to begin with and if we didnt have TV or games, they would be emulating characters from books or plays.
You may be perfectly able to beat someone to death with a baseball bat in GTA but I very much doubt that most people could actually do that for real.
You may be perfectly able to beat someone to death with a baseball bat in GTA but I very much doubt that most people could actually do that for real.
I sure hope those aren't the same reasons you stay away from the GTA series. If you stay away from the GTA games because they're badly-made and thus badly-rated, you're staying away from them for a reason that doesn't exist.
GameRankings.com lists the following composite scores (given as the ratio of positive reviews to negative reviews) for the most recent entries into the GTA flagship series:
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Publisher: Rockstar Games
Number of P/Reviews: 743 PlayStation 2 94.9%
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Publisher: Rockstar Games
Number of P/Reviews: 272 PlayStation 2 94.1%
Grand Theft Auto III
Publisher: Rockstar Games
Number of P/Reviews: 259 PlayStation 2 95.0%
So...I don't think you can really object on the grounds that they were reviewed badly. And sure, you can object on the grounds that they're poorly made, but the same reviewers you seem to trust to review games like Black & White 2 or Playboy Mansion and give them accurately poor scores gave the GTA series high marks. The impression you're giving is that the reviewers' scores matter to you when you agree with them, and you can disregard them when you disagree.
I do agree with the rest of your points though.
It's probably a whole new thread topic, but the sin of lust has more to do with where your heart is at rather than what you are lusting (and acting on those feelings) for.Sorry but I don't see how "lusting" after animated characters is a sin. I don't even see how someone would "lust" after one but I guess there's people that do.
How is it sinful if it's something that isn't real?
The GTA series is (or atleast was) innovative because of it's sandbox style of play. You could play 20 games of GTA and not have the same experience twice.Oops, my mistake. The GTA series has been given consistently high ratings, yes, but I was trying to say that I stay the heck away from it because of the very reason that I just don't see why it is rated so highly by critics and players alike. I guess I should made that more clear in the first place. >_<
I mean honestly, apart from a standard plotline, all you really have is an artificial city with randomly roaming cars and people, as well as the ability to carjack and beat people to death.
Ark
The GTA series is (or atleast was) innovative because of it's sandbox style of play. You could play 20 games of GTA and not have the same experience twice.
Theres so much to do and to explore that you can virtually ignore the plot and still have tons to do.
It's probably a whole new thread topic, but the sin of lust has more to do with where your heart is at rather than what you are lusting (and acting on those feelings) for.
It just doesn't fly with me to say (for eg) "this cartoon, book, image, game, whatever, is really sexy, I could get off on this" and then turn around and say that you are all clear because what you are lusting after is not a real person. It's not about the image, it's about you (generally speaking).
I'd suggest giving the series a solid chance. It is extremely fun, mostly because the ability to steal cars and beat people with bats is really a tiny fraction of what the game has to offer.Oops, my mistake. The GTA series has been given consistently high ratings, yes, but I was trying to say that I stay the heck away from it because of the very reason that I just don't see why it is rated so highly by critics and players alike. I guess I should made that more clear in the first place. >_<
I mean honestly, apart from a standard plotline, all you really have is an artificial city with randomly roaming cars and people, as well as the ability to carjack and beat people to death.
Ark
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