What Gamergate should have taught us about the 'alt-right'

[Skavau]

There is currently an ongoing operation targeting Crash Override, which is the organization Zoe Quinn founded to help targets of online harassment campaigns

What do you mean by "targeting" in this case?

 

[super animator]

I hadn't thought about that. But indeed, these two online brigades were very much the same and quite obviously had a lot of overlap.

In terms of what?

 

[super animator]

Zoe Quinn

Sorry, but she is not a saint as you make it out to be.

 

[morningstar2651]

What do you mean by "targeting" in this case?

The standard English definition of the word.

 

[Skavau]

The standard English definition of the word.

No. You speak as if 'targeting' is always bad, as if it always implies criminal activity, or harassment, or something hateful.

What is it that GG plans to do, do you think with this 'targeting'?

 

[morningstar2651]

Sorry, but she is not a saint as you make it out to be.

When did I make her out to be a saint? I pointed out that GamerGate started as an organized harassment campaign that targeted her and that she started an organization to help other people that are the target of harassment.

 

[morningstar2651]

What is it that GG plans to do, do you think with this 'targeting'?

They haven't been very clear or coherent with their end goals. Maybe they're going to make games great again by getting rid of all the feminists.

 

[Skavau]

They haven't been very clear or coherent with their end goals. Maybe they're going to make games great again by getting rid of all the feminists.

So you don't know. You just know that GG is criticising it. That's it.

 

[MoonlessNight]

To expand on my earlier point: the reason why it isn't worth trying to change the mind of someone who is willing to say that you are a nazi is because if he is willing to do that, he will be willing to make his own definitions to describe you and history to define you.

You'll spend nearly all of your time just clearing up the latest falsehood, and not making any real progress. Bystanders tend to split the difference and conclude that if you are playing defense you must have something to hide, even if it is apparent that you are being misrepresented.

Better to simply say that you don't care about such attacks, and then post a 2hu.

 

[Cearbhall]

In terms of what?

The tactics used: ceaseless harassment on any digital platform available, driving people off social media, spreading fake news, elaborate conspiracy theories, trolling, using bots to beat algorithms.

 

[super animator]

When did I make her out to be a saint? I pointed out that GamerGate started as an organized harassment campaign that targeted her and that she started an organization to help other people that are the target of harassment.

It like a guy who set up a organization to help people that had gotten beaten up, when that guy who founded it beat other people up.
Sorry, I rather forget horrible people than to remember them.

 

[Skavau]

The tactics used: ceaseless harassment on any digital platform available, driving people off social media, spreading fake news, elaborate conspiracy theories, trolling, bots.

Did you see what I listed from Anti-GG figures on this thread earlier?

 

[morningstar2651]

So you don't know. You just know that GG is criticising it. That's it.

Criticizing? Did I say criticizing? I totally meant to say "illegally accessing their private servers"

 

[super animator]

The tactics used: ceaseless harassment on any digital platform available, driving people off social media, spreading fake news, elaborate conspiracy theories, trolling, using bots to beat algorithms.

I never seen them committed by GG.

 

[Cearbhall]

Did you see what I listed from Anti-GG figures on this thread earlier?

I did not.

 

[MoonlessNight]

For a more specific example:

What do you think has had more of an impact in the sci-fi community:

-Authors in opposition to the sjw establishment calmly explaining for the 100th time that they aren't white supremacists.

OR

-Space Raptor Butt Invasion getting nominated for a prominent award.

Give them the respect that they deserve.

 

[Skavau]

Criticizing? Did I say criticizing? I totally meant to say "illegally accessing their private servers"

You mean chat logs... that get leaked.... all the time?

Like they're not the first server ever to suffer a whistleblower, they won't be the last.

 

[morningstar2651]

It like a guy who set up a organization to help people that had gotten beaten up, when that guy who founded it beat other people up.
Sorry, I rather forget horrible people than to remember them.

Oh, that totally justifies sending her death threats and harassing her.

 

[Skavau]

I did not.

Here

 

[Skavau]

Oh, that totally justifies sending her death threats and harassing her.

Oh for crying out loud