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Why do folks feel the necessity to post videos that no one is going to watch. Pronounce what you believe and defend it if necessary. Don't let others do it for you.The list is too long, I think this is the most important one:
Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to
change ltimes; Yahweh's Feast Days, and Laws."
Amazing video explaing the CatholicChurch
And upon her head a name was written - YouTube
Why do folks feel the necessity to post videos that no one is going to watch. Pronounce what you believe and defend it if necessary. Don't let others do it for you.
Yes, and they're only an idol if we worship them.
But icons are not idols unless they are worshiped. If you had looked into the history of it like you claim to do you would no this. The cop-out of the "thebiblesaysitIbelieveitthatsettlesit" will not work here to cover up the fact that you are self-validating your presuppositions concerning Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
Well I have been a Catholic for over 20 years now and have never met a fellow Catholic who worships Mary as a goddess. Sorry it doesn't happen. Perhaps in some countries where certain cults have taken religious items and saints, and molded them to their traditional gods and goddess and they rituals, such as Voodoo.I think it can be true for every church (people) that we need to lead by example too and not just by what we say. Many churches can have a certain formal view but it may not always be followed by congregants.
Why do folks feel the necessity to post videos that no one is going to watch. Pronounce what you believe and defend it if necessary. Don't let others do it for you.
You have no problem with someone who has no clue what the Catholic Church teaches to tell you what she teaches. That is like having someone who has never even seen an iphone, explain to you have that iphone works and operates.
Bowing is a form of worship. Praying is a form of worship. God said not to make the images AND not to worship them. Separately.
Now who is putting words in others mouths? Hum? Never claimed that Mary is God or a goddess, only you have attempted to do so. No Catholic believes that Mary is a goddess. I repeat no Catholic. Perhaps it would be wise for you to actually get knowledge about my Church from well my Church instead of those you have an angst against my Church and are very willing to lie and deceive to make my Church look like what it isn't.
Yes this is coming from a Catholic. I repeat from a Catholic, who understands what his Church teaches. Icons and images are not equal it idols. Like I said you really don't have a true understanding of what an idol is.
One question for you have you ever read the rest of Exodus? Have you ever read the descriptions of the Tent of Meeting and the Temple? Have you ever read the story of the golden snake in Exodus? Perhaps you should.
Well I have been a Catholic for over 20 years now and have never met a fellow Catholic who worships Mary as a goddess. Sorry it doesn't happen. Perhaps in some countries where certain cults have taken religious items and saints, and molded them to their traditional gods and goddess and they rituals, such as Voodoo.
The Church is very explicit about who deserves Adoration (God only) and who can be venerated (Mary, saints, parents, etc.)
Care to share with the rest of the class what the difference is between adoration and veneration? If there is one?
No, the better question is would you accept the distinction and refine your presuppositions if he was to do that work for you. However, it is quite clear at this point that most questions you are asking are rhetorical in nature.
No bowing and praying can be used in worship, but by themselves they are not worship. I have already shown to you Abraham and Jacob bowing to other people as a sign of respect and honor.Bowing is a form of worship. Praying is a form of worship.
Still trying to get through Exodus I see. Here I will help you just a tiny bit, since you have got to that part yet:God said not to make the images AND not to worship them. Separately.
And yet he did as she asked. She interceded. He called her woman to connect her to Eve.
She was there. Sometimes, being there is all we can do. It speaks volumes that she could be there seeing her son, having been mutilated, hanging there like a criminal. It also speaks volumes that you see nothing in this act.
The woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars. The child she gives birth to is Jesus. Then the woman is Mary.
Mary is the type of the Church, so we agree.False. Thomas, James, Judas (not Iscariot), and I think one other are mentioned as names of Jesus' brothers. Mat 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31.
She is / was also not sinless. Luke 2:23-25.
Revelation has no mention of Mary at all. The woman in Revelation 12:1-6 is either Israel or the Church.
Care to share with the rest of the class what the difference is between adoration and veneration? If there is one?
No, the better question is would you accept the distinction and refine your presuppositions if he was to do that work for you.
The idea that Revelation, or any passage of Scripture, only has one meaning is false. Jesus calls his mother woman to honor her. It's also an indication that she is sinless. The mother of mankind had no name until she sinned. After she sinned, Adam named her Eve. Mary participated in Christ's redemptive work by saying "Yes" to God's request.No. Jesus was being quite clear in His distancing of Himself from her. As I explained to you. Calling her "woman" doesn't connect her to Eve. That's a serious stretch, especially considering I've already told you the implication of that statement was/is in the Jewish culture.
In the act of what? Being present for her Son's execution? It speaks more volumes that the RCC teaches that simply by her being their, she participated in Christ's redemptive work. What does her presence prove? That she lover her Son? Ok, and? (I fully agree, that sometimes all we can do is be there.)
No, that's symbolism for Israel. Period. Otherwise, what is the significance of the "fled into the wilderness for 1260 days"?
Meaning? Also, it is a bit disingenuous to edit the rest of my post.
Fixed it, but I still think it's an honest question that deserves an answer.
Do you pray to them and say they can change the course of heavenly or Earthly events by their own authority?I suppose I'm a pagan too then. After all I'm guilty of venerating God's written word, the Scriptures, as well as venerating my parents as per God's command to honor our mother and father.
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