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What does your denominstion say the Keys are?

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Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.* Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

Matthew 18:18
Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

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...So what is it that binds and loosenes? As a Catholic, I believe it is the introduction to Canon Law... I'm curious what non-Catholics believe on this.
 

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I would say that the typical English translations are very bad. It would be a more accurate rendering of the Greek tenses to say: "Whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will have been loosed in heaven."

So I see this power not as one to bind and loose, resting in ourselves, but the power to know and declare what God has bound and loosed. Thus we know and declare God's forgiveness and blessing.
 
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The name of Jesus is the key that unlocks the promises of God....


That doesn't really answer the question though, since the video you posted talks about praying in Jesus' name.
 
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That doesn't really answer the question though, since the video you posted talks about praying in Jesus' name.

But... That is the key! The name of Jesus!

1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. - Luke 10


Notice the seventy said the devils are subject unto us through thy name, the name of Jesus. This also indicates that the Lord Jesus had well discipled the seventy to do the miracles though the name of Jesus. And of the Apostle Paul Jesus said to Ananias...

But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: - Acts 9:15

Christ Jesus has much more zeal to magnify his own name rather than any other in heaven or in earth.
 
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Interesting so far. The Presbyterian says, the keys came and left with the Apostles, the Anglican says the interpretation is flawed, the Pentecostal says the keys are Jesus' name itself and the Catholic says it's Canon Law. Lol.

So what do the Baptists, Lutherans and others think I wonder.
 
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Meaning, the ability to open understanding of the gospel, which are the "keys of the kingdom of heaven" which "set at liberty" or "looses the bonds" of the law, allowing entrance into the grace of God. The idea of being "bound" and "loosed" is used in relation to the husband/wife in accordance with whether or not they are "under the law":

1 Corinthians 7:27, 1 Corinthians 7:39, Romans 7:2

So the disciples are given the ability, through understanding, to set others at liberty through the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom, so that they are "no longer bound" by the husband of the law, or, to keep ones under the law, being subject to it, and under the law; bound by it.

The key is the thing that opens doors, which are, doors of understanding; of which Jesus had the "Key of David" which is that which opens and shuts, binds and looses: Revelation 3:7, Luke 24:45

Those that are given to hear and understand, are loosed from being bound to the law, and set at liberty: as the "new creature" in Christ: Romans 8:21, 2 Corinthians 5:17, Galatians 6:15 and at the resurrection it is a universal event which is shown by way of allegory with Paul and the "great earthquake": Acts 16:26

In short, the keys of the kingdom is the understanding preached through the gospel which has the power in Spirit to set at liberty, or, keep in bondage, determined by whether the hearer is given to understand, and, the door is opened. This key was in the Spirit of the law, which was misused by the lawyers, hindering people from accessing the kingdom, and was subsequently taken from them and given to the disciples: that is, taken from the children of the flesh and given to the children of the promise: Luke 11:52, Matthew 21:43: Peter's confession manifested that the identity of the Son was revealed to him by the Father, and as such that revelation made him one of the children of promise, who were to inherit the kingdom of heaven, and the keys of that kingdom, and entrance into it.
 
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Interesting so far. The Presbyterian says, the keys came and left with the Apostles, the Anglican says the interpretation is flawed, the Pentecostal says the keys are Jesus' name itself and the Catholic says it's Canon Law. Lol.

So what do the Baptists, Lutherans and others think I wonder.
I did not say that the keys left. They are still here in the New Testament as it is administered through preaching, teaching, and other forms of the ministry of the word.
 
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I always find the discussions concerning the mysterious "keys" to be quite interesting. The Mormons claim to have them under their watchful eye in Salt Lake City after the Catholic Church lost them during the Great Apostasy.

The real question is what do these keys actually unlock and lock? If it is the gates of heaven, then they are more powerful than God Himself who, apparently, no longer has these keys. Thus, we can understand historic Catholic thinking that when the Pope decided to excommunicate someone it was an automatic ticket to hell for that person. The Pope also claims to have the key (maybe one of these mysterious "keys") to unlike the Treasury of Merits. These Merits apparently are used to shorten the time in Purgatory for naughty Catholics. I have often wondered what Catholics think about the merit of the grace of God through Jesus Christ. Apparently it is quite insufficient to forgive the sinner and save him so that the (alleged) merits of Mary and the saints are required.

Interesting topic. Keep it going.
 
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the Anglican says the interpretation is flawed
I don't know that that is true.

I do know that in ourselves when we fail to be forgiving we have trouble being free. I think Anglicans understand that the Church has power here and now, delivered into our hands by Jesus, to declare that forgiveness for both here and now, and outrageously for ever. It is what Jesus came to do, to set people free from sin, and part of our apostolic charge is that we have been empowered to declare that forgiveness. In the ordering of the life of the Church this ministry is sacramentally exercised by Bishops and Priests, however we are all called to exercise some part of this in our lifestyle of ministry forgive us our sins as we forgive
 
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Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.* Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

Matthew 18:18
Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

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...So what is it that binds and loosenes? As a Catholic, I believe it is the introduction to Canon Law... I'm curious what non-Catholics believe on this.

I have answered this for you my friend on another thread but for those who did not read that thread I am happy to tell you again. In fact I think I was the one who asked you what the Keys were.

The question comes from Mathew 16:17-19.......
“Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven”.

Keys are used to lock or unlock doors!

Jesus said that, unless one is born again, he will not see the Kingdom of Heaven in John 3:3. One is born again as the Holy Spirit works through the Word of God to bring about new life in a dead sinner.

The content of the message is the substitutionary death of Christ and His subsequent resurrection as recorded in Romans 10:9–10.

So the faithful preaching of the gospel is the key to the kingdom.

God’s will is that sinners be granted access to heaven through the righteousness of Christ. Consider Jesus’ warning to the Pharisees: “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in” (Matthew 23:13).

If the gospel message is distorted or ignored, or if unrepentant sin is not adequately disciplined, the doors to the Kingdom of Heaven are being shut in people’s faces.
 
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I have answered this for you my friend on another thread but for those who did not read that thread I am happy to tell you again. In fact I think I was the one who asked you what the Keys were.

The question comes from Mathew 16:17-19.......
“Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven”.

Keys are used to lock or unlock doors!

Jesus said that, unless one is born again, he will not see the Kingdom of Heaven in John 3:3. One is born again as the Holy Spirit works through the Word of God to bring about new life in a dead sinner.

The content of the message is the substitutionary death of Christ and His subsequent resurrection as recorded in Romans 10:9–10.

So the faithful preaching of the gospel is the key to the kingdom.

God’s will is that sinners be granted access to heaven through the righteousness of Christ. Consider Jesus’ warning to the Pharisees: “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in” (Matthew 23:13).

If the gospel message is distorted or ignored, or if unrepentant sin is not adequately disciplined, the doors to the Kingdom of Heaven are being shut in people’s faces.

So then, to "loose" things in heaven, we accomplish that by what means in regard to using the keys?

...assuming that to "bind" means to spread the gospel according to your interpretation.
 
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Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.* Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

Matthew 18:18
Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

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...So what is it that binds and loosenes? As a Catholic, I believe it is the introduction to Canon Law... I'm curious what non-Catholics believe on this.

A completely novel understanding of this topic:

http://tv.ffoz.org/a-promise-of-what-is-to-come/keys-to-the-kingdom.html
 
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So then, to "loose" things in heaven, we accomplish that by what means in regard to using the keys?

...assuming that to "bind" means to spread the gospel according to your interpretation.

The expressions “bind” and “loose” were common to Jewish legal phraseology meaning to declare something forbidden or to declare it allowed.

If we withhold the Word of God....we bind on earth and if we give the Word of God we loose on earth.

NO man or individual church has the keys to the exclusion of all other believers my friend. We have the responsibility today to give out the Word of God because it is the only thing that can save the lost sinner from hell.

Romans 10:17.....
"Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God".
 
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In the Pilgrims Progress the two Pilgrims, Christian and Hopeful, are caught in by-path meadow, where a storm and a flood sweep them down into the doubting castle and into the hands of the Giant Despair... And to quote John Bunyan...

But by this time the waters were greatly risen, by reason of which the way of going back was very dangerous. (Then I thought that it is easier going out of the way, when we are in, than going in when we are out.) Yet they adventured to go back, but it was so dark, and the flood was so high, that in their going back they had like to have been drowned nine or ten times. Neither could they, with all the skill they had, get again to the stile that night. Wherefore, at last, lighting under a little shelter, they sat down there until the daybreak; but, being weary, they fell asleep.

Now there was, not far from the place where they lay, a castle called Doubting Castle, the owner whereof was Giant Despair; and it was in his grounds they now were sleeping: wherefore he, getting up in the morning early, and walking up and down in his fields, caught Christian and Hopeful asleep in his grounds. Then, with a grim and surly voice, he bid them awake; and asked them whence they were, and what they did in his grounds. They told him they were pilgrims, and that they had lost their way. Then said the Giant, You have this night trespassed on me, by trampling in and lying on my grounds, and therefore you must go along with me. So they were forced to go, because he was stronger than they. They also had but little to say, for they knew themselves in a fault.

The Giant, therefore, drove them before him, and put them into his castle, into a very dark dungeon, nasty and stinking to the spirits of these two men. He then getteth him a grievous crab-tree cudgel, and goes down into the dungeon to them, and there first falls to rating of them as if they were dogs, although they never gave him a word of distaste. Then he falls upon them, and beats them fearfully, in such sort that they were not able to help themselves, or to turn them upon the floor. This done, he withdraws and leaves them there to condole their misery and to mourn under their distress. So all that day they spent the time in nothing but sighs and bitter lamentations.

The next night the giant did advise him to counsel them to make away themselves and commit suicide. So when morning was come, he goes to them in a surly manner as before, and perceiving them to be very sore with the stripes that he had given them the day before, he told them, that since they were never like to come out of that place, their only way would be forthwith to make an end of themselves, either with knife, halter, or poison, for why, said he, should you choose life, seeing it is attended with so much bitterness? But they desired him to let them go. With that he looked ugly upon them, and, rushing to them, had doubtless made an end of them himself, but that he fell into one of his fits, (for he sometimes, in sunshiny weather, fell into fits), and lost for a time the use of his hand; wherefore he withdrew, and left them as before, to consider what to do.

Well, towards evening, the Giant goes down into the dungeon again, to see if his prisoners had taken his counsel; but when he came there he found them alive; and truly, alive was all; for now, what for want of bread and water, and by reason of the wounds they received when he beat them, they could do little but breathe. But, I say, he found them alive; at which he fell into a grievous rage, and told them that, seeing they had disobeyed his counsel, it should be worse with them than if they had never been born. At this they trembled greatly, and I think that Christian fell into a swoon; but, coming a little to himself again, they renewed their discourse about the Giant's counsel; and whether yet they had best to take it or no.

Now a little before it was day, good Christian, as one half amazed, brake out in passionate speech: What a fool, quoth he, am I, thus to lie in a stinking Dungeon, when I may as well walk at liberty. I have a Key in my bosom called Promise, that will, I am persuaded, open any Lock in Doubting Castle. Then said Hopeful, That's good news; good Brother pluck it out of thy bosom and try.

A key in Christian's bosom, called Promise, opens any lock in Doubting Castle

Then Christian pulled it out of his bosom, and began to try at the Dungeon door, whose bolt (as he turned the Key) gave back, and the door flew open with ease, and Christian and Hopeful both came out. Then he went to the outward door that leads into the Castle-yard, and with his Key opened that door also. After he went to the iron Gate, for that must be opened too, but that Lock went damnable hard, yet the Key did open it. Then they thrust open the Gate to make their escape with speed; but that Gate as it opened made such a creaking, that it waked Giant Despair, who hastily rising to pursue his Prisoners, felt his limbs to fail, for his Fits took him again, so that he could by no means go after them. Then they went on, and came to the King's High-way again, and so were safe, because they were out of his jurisdiction.
 
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Note... The keys are the promises of God... That unlock all doors in any doubting castle!

So, what is the promise of God?

I submitt to you that Christ in heaven ratifies what is done in His name and in obedience to His Word on earth. In both Matt. 16:19 and 18:18, the syntax of the Greek text makes the meaning clear. What you bind on earth will have already been bound in heaven. What you loose on earth will have already been loosed in heaven. In other words, Jesus in heaven looses the authority of His Word as it goes forth on earth for the fulfillment of its purpose.

Doesn't that explain exactly what His promise was in John 14:1-3........
“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. "
 
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