Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
Correct. . .only the born again are saved. . .by faith. . .in the Promise (Jesus Christ, Seed of Ge 15:5, Gal 3:16).So you believe that it's not just a NT thing?
Not sure I understand what you're saying. Do you mean that Jesus came 4000 years or so after the initial sin in the garden to die for the people living at the time who rejected him?
The leaders were put into place from ancient times. Jesus did not rail against them. He did say that whatever they taught (which would be from the Torah) to do but to not do what they did (which was outside of Torah and mostly to their benefit).
And the rejection was due in part to current circumstances in the occupied land.
As the High Priest said it was better for one man to die than the whole nation.
Also one of the reasons they sought to kill him was because of his claims to be God.
This is exactly what the verse does _not_ say.Not all sin is taken away. Only the sin of those He died for are taken away.
Try again.This is exactly what the verse does _not_ say.
The sin you were writing about in Matthew 12 blasphemy of The Holy spirit/the unforgivable sin. Is not or was never an individual sin. It was a national sin that could have only been committed by The nation of Israel. Why the nation of Israel, because they were God's chosen nation. That sin is only found in the context of Matthew 12. Where Jesus does specific miracles, that only the promised Messiah was supposed to be able to do. I am posting a few pages that go into more of an explanation of this below.
Are you insisting that "all" and "everyone" in every context means absolutely all who ever lived?And who would those be?
"All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men(mankind)"
Did he not mean all?
All those who sin and blaspheme.Are you insisting that "all" and "everyone" in every context means absolutely all who ever lived?
"Are they all in the car? Is everyone in the car? Can we go now?"
Ok, so if there's two kinds of 'free will' and man only has the second kind, then who has the first kind?#1 There is totally free will--the power to voluntarily, without external force or constraint, make all choices, including the choice to always be sinless in thought, word and deed.
#2 There is limited free will--the power to voluntarily choose, without external force or constraint, what one prefers.
Man has limited free will, not totally free will.
Does anyone else see this as NOT talking about mankind's sins?John 1:29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.Correct. . .only the born again are saved. . .by faith. . .in the Promise (Jesus Christ, Seed of Ge 15:5, Gal 3:16).
The idiom, "all manner of", in Greek and English, as far as I know, is the same as "all sorts of" which doesn't mean "every kind of", but "many kinds of".All those who sin and blaspheme.
The idiom, "all manner of", in Greek and English, as far as I know, is the same as "all sorts of" which doesn't mean "every kind of", but "many kinds of".
I don't follow what you're saying. Seems we're talking past each other.Lulav said: And who would those be?"All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men (mankind)"Did he not mean all?
Except for the rejection of God's invitation
Messianic Jewish Ministry Bible Teachings | Ariel MinistriesInteresting discussion of what I would consider as an Acts 2 dispensationalist, do you have the weblink of this or the title of this book?
This also touches on the subject.Interesting discussion of what I would consider as an Acts 2 dispensationalist, do you have the weblink of this or the title of this book?
Adam did. . .and threw it away.Ok, so if there's two kinds of 'free will' and man only has the second kind, then who has the first kind?
Yes, the promise of seed was made to Christ, fulfilled in the church, the body of Christ.16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of sone, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.
So the promise was made to 'your seed who is Messiah?
All sin is the same. . .disobedience of God.Does anyone else see this as NOT talking about mankind's sins?
Also please note we are talking about the word 'sin' here, it is not in the plural, but in the singular.
View attachment 325272
To be born again is to receive a call and answer it. The only way I can explain the call is that it rips your inner most parts and shows you how God sees you. You are a sinner and have sinned against Him. You have believed in God but this is totally different. You answer that call initiated by the Spirit by confession and repentance.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?