NomNomPizza
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Thats the whole issue why Christ needed virgin birth cuz man's seed thru generations is polluted by sin.
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Does this make it less likely that you would choose sin and more likely to resist sin? If so, why not be born that way?
Yes. Here is a word search of the bible you can take a look at. But please note, this is what belivers are saved from however belivers desire a relationship with their Creator first and foremost.So to be saved means to be saved from the second death?
So because the first Humans messed up, we have to suffer the consequences of their mistake?This goes back to the first humans, because they partook of the fruit of knowing good and evil, their Godlike imagination killed them because they knew evil and could not control the manifestation of both good and evil at the same time.
But if everybody was born with the seed of God and then Spirit within them, this wouldn't be necessary; would it?Thats the whole issue why Christ needed virgin birth cuz man's seed thru generations is polluted by sin.
Basicall your question if why bother with this all life and suffering , why not just create only people who would never disobey God to begin with.But if everybody was born with the seed of God and then Spirit within them, this wouldn't be necessary; would it?
We are born of the same materials, so experience the same thing they did.So because the first Humans messed up, we have to suffer the consequences of their mistake?
I wouldn't underestimate the option of a mindless robot-like human. I would much rather be a mindless robot-like human for the short time on Earth and end up going to heaven because of it than to be given free-will while here on Earth resulting in eternal torture in the lake of fire.Somehow in God's eyes its good trade to have 90 or 95% go to lake of fire and have rest for himself for eternity than to just create mindless robot-like people with no free will.
Were they created with the desire to sin like us? Or were they created morally perfect unlike us.We are born of the same materials, so experience the same thing they did.
They were originally created with to look like and be like God. However, because of that one modification, (knowledge of good and evil) it resulted in their spiritual death.Were they created with the desire to sin like us? Or were they created morally perfect unlike us.
Ye but it's not up to you what you want to or what you like but what is.I wouldn't underestimate the option of a mindless robot-like human. I would much rather be a mindless robot-like human for the short time on Earth and end up going to heaven because of it than to be given free-will while here on Earth resulting in eternal torture in the lake of fire.
What do Christians mean when they say they are saved? I've even heard some of them mention the specific day that they got saved. What does this mean?
Ken
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