What does antitheist atheist mean?

[Larniavc]

I don't think it's ok with you, otherwise you wouldn't reply to my posts.

As for the point 2: Are you suggesting that the majority of the atheists on this forum don't agree with antitheism?

Yes. I would say so. But you'll just disagree and round and round and round we'll go until you start another thread about how naughty atheists are.

You'll note that on a Christian site such as CF there is no one rallying to support you.

You know the biggest surprises I had comming to CF and reading what the many Christian posters write?

The beliefs I had about the homogeneity of the Christian view point were wrong.

Often the only thing two Christians have in common is their faith in their salvation due to the sacrife and resurrection of Jesus to take their sin into him and pay for it.

In the same way that two atheists may only have in common a lack of that belief.

I freely admit I was wrong about what I believed about Christians. If I can learn that other people don't think the way I thought they do, why can't you!

 

[just a believing guy]

Yes. I would say so. But you'll just disagree and round and round and round we'll go until you start another thread about how naughty atheists are.

You'll note that on a Christian site such as CF there is no one rallying to support you.

You know the biggest surprises I had comming to CF and reading what the many Christian posters write?

The beliefs I had about the homogeneity of the Christian view point were wrong.

Often the only thing two Christians have in common is their faith in their salvation due to the sacrife and resurrection of Jesus to take their sin into him and pay for it.

In the same way that two atheists may only have in common a lack of that belief.

I freely admit I was wrong about what I believed about Christians. If I can learn that other people don't think the way I thought they do, why can't you!

Good for you! But, there is much, much in common among Christians than just the basics of Christianity...

 

[just a believing guy]

I can do it quite fine.

Try to focus. You were making assumptions as to why and what about your posts I responded to, and I corrected you.
Whether or not you are able to discuss without being emotional about the subject, is your problem. I am responding to that which lends itself to discussion.

Then, you cannot discuss Christianity at all.

 

[quatona]

Then, you cannot discuss Christianity at all.

Ok, now that you have admitted that it´s all about your preferences and emotions, there´s indeed nothing to discuss.

 

[just a believing guy]

Ok, now that you have admitted that it´s all about your preferences and emotions, there´s indeed nothing to discuss.

Hey, it's not only my preferences and emotions. Just because other Christians tend to keep to themselves on this forum, doesn't mean that they don't hold the view I do.

 

[quatona]

Then, you cannot discuss Christianity at all.

Your threads aren´t about Christianity, they are all about atheism (or rather, about the caricatures you paint of it).

 

[quatona]

Hey, it's not only my preferences and emotions. Just because other Christians tend to keep to themselves on this forum, doesn't mean that they don't hold the view I do.

I´m not going to discuss your preferences or emotions (because these things don´t lend themselves to discussions), no matter how many others might share them.
Your preferences and emotions are noted, and that´s that.

 

[Dave-W]

Atheists is just a shortened word for Anti-Theist..

Not so. The prefixes are both from Greek.

A--- means "without."
Anti--- means "against."

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

How you could talk about God and not taking into account emotions? You cannot possibly talk about Christian God without preferences and emotions.

Off course one can....

Just like you can probably talk about Frodo, Harry Potter or Darth Vader, without prefernces and emotions... but just as an outsider evaluation of a character in a story.

Off course there are subjects where I will have problems keeping my emotions outside of it... but discussing characters in books that I consider fictional, is not one of them.

 

[just a believing guy]

Off course one can....

Just like you can probably talk about Frodo, Harry Potter or Darth Vader, without prefernces and emotions... but just as an outsider evaluation of a character in a story.

Off course there are subjects where I will have problems keeping my emotions outside of it... but discussing characters in books that I consider fictional, is not one of them.

Christianity has been a great factor over the millenia. To put it to such lowness is silly.

 

[Larniavc]

Then, you cannot discuss Christianity at all.

S/he wasn't.

 

[Larniavc]

Hey, it's not only my preferences and emotions. Just because other Christians tend to keep to themselves on this forum, doesn't mean that they don't hold the view I do.

I think you'll find that this is a fast moving forum.

They are avoiding you.

 

[Larniavc]

Christianity has been a great factor over the millenia. To put it to such lowness is silly.

You really can put your self in someone else's shows can you?

 

[Gene2memE]

On this forums atheist people seem to appreciate antitheism, so antitheism too is closely related to atheism.

Anti-theism is generally related to atheism - but usually 'hard'/'gnostic' atheism.

However, there are theists that can also be anti-theists. As contradictory as that sounds.

An old school friend, who I converse with about my beliefs/lack of beliefs on occasion, has shifted his beliefs from Christian to a more deistic/pantheist set of views over the past 15 years or so. While he still retains a belief in some form of prime mover creator god with the four 'omni' properties, he actively opposes organised religion, objects to pretty much all major religious texts as invented fictions and thinks the idea of deities intervening in day-to-day life is absurd at best, and deliberate lies in most cases.

I'd consider him a theistic anti-theist. He believes in some god, but thinks that anything bar personal, private reflection about the nature of this god is a negative for individuals and society generally.

 

[Moral Orel]

Hello

I think this line of thought is unreasonable. If i were to secretly love something i hate does that mean i secretly hate something i love?

What motivates someone to do something can only be known by the individual - unless he tells you.

Thank you

I agree. My post was a joke about all the times that Christians tell atheists that they are secret believers because they hang out on a Christian forum. That's why I put the winky face, I wasn't really claiming to know anyone's inner emotions.

 

[AirPo]

Atheists is just a shortened word for Anti-Theist..

So they are the same in truth..

But i would say an athiest would elongate the word and declare themselves Anti-Theist to indicate they are hostile towards religious people and will get agressive towards Theists when they cross paths with one..

No it's not.

 

[AirPo]

On this forums atheist people seem to appreciate antitheism, so antitheism too is closely related to atheism.

Got an example of that?

 

[quatona]

However, there are theists that can also be anti-theists. As contradictory as that sounds.

I don´t think it sounds self-contradictory. Many people believe in the existence of Satan, yet are extremely opposed to him, after all.
The idea that "belief in the existence of..." and "liking..." are inseparable is a silent admission of certain theists that their belief is founded in wishful thinking.

 

[just a believing guy]

Got an example of that?

Yes, some of Freodin's posts.

 

[just a believing guy]

Anti-theism is generally related to atheism - but usually 'hard'/'gnostic' atheism.

However, there are theists that can also be anti-theists. As contradictory as that sounds.

An old school friend, who I converse with about my beliefs/lack of beliefs on occasion, has shifted his beliefs from Christian to a more deistic/pantheist set of views over the past 15 years or so. While he still retains a belief in some form of prime mover creator god with the four 'omni' properties, he actively opposes organised religion, objects to pretty much all major religious texts as invented fictions and thinks the idea of deities intervening in day-to-day life is absurd at best, and deliberate lies in most cases.

I'd consider him a theistic anti-theist. He believes in some god, but thinks that anything bar personal, private reflection about the nature of this god is a negative for individuals and society generally.

So he has found himself a God not worth worshiping, Who doesn't give directions in life and who doesn't require personal sacrifice in order for this life to be a better place. How convenient.