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What does antitheist atheist mean?

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I was already corrected on this point.. :) read the thread ..
I must say that to see a fellow human readily acknowledge correction gives me a modicum of hope for humanity. Well done.
 
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Christianity has been a great factor over the millenia

So has Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, the Greek and Roman gods, the Viking gods,...

. To put it to such lowness is silly.

I put it in the same bag as all other faith based beliefs and stories, because that's the bag it belongs in.
 
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So has Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, the Greek and Roman gods, the Viking gods,...



I put it in the same bag as all other faith based beliefs and stories, because that's the bag it belongs in.

Well I'm not aware of a Hindu Red Ohm society, are you?
 
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So has Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, the Greek and Roman gods, the Viking gods,...



I put it in the same bag as all other faith based beliefs and stories, because that's the bag it belongs in.

All these gods have completely lost their meaning long time ago. (and t's not the Viking gods, but Norse gods.)
 
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Well I'm not aware of a Hindu Red Ohm society, are you?

Good job ignoring the point again.

You said that christianity was a "great factor" over the millenia.
My response to that is: so was every other major religion, including the ones that have died off since then.

Even something as "christian" as Christmass as it is currently celebrated, wouldn't exist if it wasn't for germanic pagan religion and viking religious tradition.

You really need to get your head out of the sand.

The world has been shaped by all cultures and worldviews that preceeded us. Not just by your prefered religion of choice.
 
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All these gods have completely lost their meaning long time ago. (and t's not the Viking gods, but Norse gods.)

Islam, judaism and hinduism have lost their meaning a long time ago?

Perhaps you should inform the 2 billion people who still follow those religions.
 
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Islam, judaism and hinduism have lost their meaning a long time ago?

Perhaps you should inform the 2 billion people who still follow those religions.

Yes, and are ''living'' in slams, under a casta torure.
 
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Good job ignoring the point again.

You said that christianity was a "great factor" over the millenia.
My response to that is: so was every other major religion, including the ones that have died off since then.

Even something as "christian" as Christmass as it is currently celebrated, wouldn't exist if it wasn't for germanic pagan religion and viking religious tradition.

You really need to get your head out of the sand.

The world has been shaped by all cultures and worldviews that preceeded us. Not just by your prefered religion of choice.

As far a other religions are conserned, they haven't really stood the test of time, as opposed to Christianity. The adherents of each and every other religion than Christianity have addapted the Western mores and morality long time ago; what would Japan be without their Western mode written Constitution, what would China be had Mao Tze Tung not addopted the Stallinist ways, same goes for Vietnam, etc.

As for the other pagan religion and the influence of Christianity on them in the context of today's West, I'll just say -- there can't be cake without icing.
 
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As far a other religions are conserned, they haven't really stood the test of time, as opposed to Christianity.

Dude, Hinduism is far older then christianity.
Some of the religions that have died off also have had a much longer life then christianity has had upto today.

The adherents of each and every other religion than Christianity have addapted the Western mores and morality long time ago

That is completely demonstrably false.
In fact, most of our western secular democracies aren't even rooted in "christian values".

what would Japan be without their Western mode written Constitution

Japan? You mean that society that is among the least religious in the world? That society which is based on secularism?

You really need to stop equating "western" with "christian".


what would China be had Mao Tze Tung not addopted the Stallinist ways, same goes for Vietnam, etc.

Who knows. What would Latin America be if... ow, wait... latin america is predominantly christian with very high religiosity and amongst the most violent dangerous regions in the world... Oeps!

As for the other pagan religion and the influence of Christianity on them in the context of today's West, I'll just say -- there can't be cake without icing.

Almost everything you take for granted in today's free western societies, was developed and implemented in the last 200 years. You know... AFTER secularism took over from theocratic thinking.

The most part of the period when christianity was an inherent part of the powers that were, is generally refered to as the "dark ages".

The free society you enjoy so much today, and which you attribute to christianity, actually only exists because we kicked the church out of politics.
 
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Dude, Hinduism is far older then christianity.
Some of the religions that have died off also have had a much longer life then christianity has had upto today.



That is completely demonstrably false.
In fact, most of our western secular democracies aren't even rooted in "christian values".



Japan? You mean that society that is among the least religious in the world? That society which is based on secularism?

You really need to stop equating "western" with "christian".




Who knows. What would Latin America be if... ow, wait... latin america is predominantly christian with very high religiosity and amongst the most violent dangerous regions in the world... Oeps!



Almost everything you take for granted in today's free western societies, was developed and implemented in the last 200 years. You know... AFTER secularism took over from theocratic thinking.

The most part of the period when christianity was an inherent part of the powers that were, is generally refered to as the "dark ages".

The free society you enjoy so much today, and which you attribute to christianity, actually only exists because we kicked the church out of politics.

Hindusism is in crisis, about to end because of the spreading of Christianity around the world. It doesn't matter how old a religion is, what matters is how long a religion is going to provide fruits.

The western democracies are rooted in Christianity, because it was Christianity that influenced the European philosophers 200 years ago.

Japan has the secularism, because it was brought there by the West, which has been tremendously influenced by Christianity. Japan is that much secular because its spiritual confusion; the Japanese don't know what to believe in, as their religions are dying off.

Latin America has been a vassal of the western interests, the same interests having their origin in secularity.

Secularism was the direct product of the ''dark ages'' as you call it, which weren't so dark after all, as new research shows.

The church has never been kicked out of politics; there are numerous political parties in Europe which have been founded on Christian principles, and you know it, but are silent about it.
 
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