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What Doctrine Was It??

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tigersnare

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I want to know, what doctrine or doctrines most influenced your decision to be Protestant or remain Protestant after learning, studying, and researching other faiths.


*(This is somewhat of a followup of my last thread, but also rewored to gain the answers I am wanting to know.)*

Please only talk about the doctorines you belief in whole heartedly, there is no need to talk about the ones you do not, or the people whom believe those doctorines you don't agree with. Thanks! :pray:
 

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When you are given the truth, lies are easy to see. If you haven't known the truth, which lie is easier to choose which is right, if they are all lies?
That is why I remain a christian. I believe protestant does mean you're saved, although I am protestant as well. But simply to be protestant does not save you.
Being Catholic does not mean you are unsaved. We cannot determine who is saved, only God can. But as for remaining in the protestant church, well, it uses the bible for correction and proof. That is certainly a good step when you are able to follow God's word.
Really though, if you want a good basis for what is right or wrong, God has put it down in His Word. So if it's in bible being right or wrong, then that is what I believe determines it right or wrong. It's is right or wrong because God says so, not because I say so.
 
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tigersnare said:
I want to know, what doctrine or doctrines most influenced your decision to be Protestant or remain Protestant after learning, studying, and researching other faiths.
Honestly, the greatest doctrine ever held up in the protestant churches at large is the idea of the gratuitousness of God's grace - given to his people through faith. Interestingly, I observed a thread over on another board a few days back on the issue of why protestantism persists. There was one poster who got the point right when he stated that the reason the protestant movement continues is because it preaches the gratuity of God's grace. As long as it does, it will hold the attentions of God's people.

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I can't say that it is a single doctrine that kept me in the faith after researching and even practicing other religions. It was myriad reasons but the main doctrine that has kept me where I am, and one I teach on frequently with my youth group is suffiency of grace. We just went through the mechanics of salvation and while I was studying Romans and going through all the steps:

Hearing
Believing
Confessing

I came to realize that we cannot even hear the Gospel without Grace. I had realized that through grace we are imparted the faith to believe and that it is the Holy Spirit that gives us the ability to claim that Jesus Christ is Lord. But I had never thought about the hearing part of it. Of course we hear sounds in the physical realm but without the impartation of faith through grace then the teacher could not have heard the message to begin with so through what grace imparted to the teacher we are able to here the message taught. It was an amazing revelation that proved to me even further the suffiency of grace in all things. This is what has kept me where I am today and indeed the main reason I returned to my beliefs after straying and studying many other religions.
 
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tigersnare said:
I want to know, what doctrine or doctrines most influenced your decision to be Protestant or remain Protestant after learning, studying, and researching other faiths.


*(This is somewhat of a followup of my last thread, but also rewored to gain the answers I am wanting to know.)*

Please only talk about the doctorines you belief in whole heartedly, there is no need to talk about the ones you do not, or the people whom believe those doctorines you don't agree with. Thanks! :pray:
Where to start? What would be helpfull is to ask which doctrines you are questioning ;)

I have 2 books to recommend you, Commentary on Romans by Martin Luther (translated by J. Theodore Mueller), and Faith Alone by RC Sproul.

The docrine I hold closest to my heart, and that has kept my faith despite researching and considering the other Christian faiths, is the view of grace alone, faith alone, and the sinful state of man. That the book of Romans cannot be ignored, nor rationalized away.

The fact is, though no one likes to admitt it these days, is that man is sinful, that without the Holy Spirit he is bound by sin and will choose nothing but sin. We can do no good work outside of Christ, so salvation can only come from Him, and nothing we do can obtian it or increase it.

"For even thoughyou keep the law outwardly, with works, from fear of punishment or love of reward, neverless, you do all this without willingness and pleasure, and without love for the law, but rather with unwillingness, under compulsion; and you would rather do otherwise, if the law were not there."

Skipping a ways

"Accustom yourself, then, to this language, and you will find that doing works of the law and fulfilling the law are two very different things. The work of the law is everything that one does, or can do toward keeping the law of his own free will or by his own powers. But since under all these works and along with them there remains in the heart dislike for the law and the compulsion to keep it, these works are all wasted and have no value. That is what St. Paul means in chapter 3, when he says, "By the works of the law no man becomes righteous before God." Hence you see that the wranglers and sophists are deceivers, when they teach men to prepare themselves for grace by means of works. How can a man prepare himself for good by means of works, if he does no good works without displeasure and unwillingness of heart? How shall a work please God, if it proceeds from a reluctant and resisting heart?
To fulufil the law, however, is to do good works with pleasure and love, and to live a godly and good life of one's own accord, without the compulsion of the law. This pleasure and love for the law is put into the heart by the Holy Ghost, as he says in chapter 5. But the Holy Ghost is not given except in, witih, and by faith in Jesus Christ, as he says in the introduction; and faithdoes not come, save only through God's Word or Gospel, which preaches Christ, that He is God's Son and a man, has died and risen again for our sakes, as he says in chapters 3, 4, and 10...."

Martin Luther
The chapters are references in Romans, and "he" is Paul. Didn't want to type more because of copyrights.
 
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tigersnare said:
I want to know, what doctrine or doctrines most influenced your decision to be Protestant or remain Protestant after learning, studying, and researching other faiths.


*(This is somewhat of a followup of my last thread, but also rewored to gain the answers I am wanting to know.)*

Please only talk about the doctorines you belief in whole heartedly, there is no need to talk about the ones you do not, or the people whom believe those doctorines you don't agree with. Thanks! :pray:
For me, also, it ultimately comes down to the doctrine of grace and of justification through the means of faith alone, and not by any works (even works done through grace) of the believer.



There's no question that Christians are called to a life of holiness, characterized by good works and a heart that desires God and abhors sin, and that through the process of sanctification with which we must cooperate, sin's grip on us becomes weaker and weaker as we grow in spiritual maturity. But the Bible teaches, also, that when God renders a "not guilty" verdict upon us, (justification) it's not because of any so-called "good works" that we've done, but because Christ has fulfilled the righteous requirements of the law, and His righteousness is imputed to us (or credited to our account) through faith.
5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:


7 "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,
And whose sins are covered;
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin."* (Romans 4:5-8)

In accordance with God's perfect justice, our justification is based upon a kind of "heavenly exchange," whereby our sin was imputed to Christ on the cross, and His righteousness is imputed to us through faith. Many of the essential truths that define the gospel, such as those surrounding the nature of God and of the person of Jesus Christ, are found in various church traditions. But only evangelicalism affirms the truth of the nature of the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ at Calvary as the basis of our justification before God.

Perhaps you might benefit from reading James White's, The God Who Justifies, if you're not clear on the meaning and/or the Biblical justification, for the Biblical doctrine of justification. I haven't read it myself, but from what I've heard, it's a very thorough and readable book.

God bless!
 
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in keeping with your parameters


Please guys, I would appreciate it very much if we all stayed inside the parameters suggested by the original post. The parameters were set up for the sake of unity. If you need or want further explaination why the parameters were set up, I would be more than happy to discuss with you.

Just to clarify, this thread is in no way, a place to talk about what you do not believe about Catholicism, how you feel about Cathlicism, or Catholic Theology.

This is where you talk about your beliefs, your theology, and your feelings about your Church.

I'm not trying to tie anyone hands, but I feel it would be more effective to lay down, in your opinion, sound doctrine that makes others go and research for themeselves the differences between yours, and thiers.
 
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Lotar said:
This is the type of thread I like to read. The Reformation was not about not being Catholic, it was about God's grace. :)

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tigersnare said:
want to know, what doctrine or doctrines most influenced your decision to be Protestant or remain Protestant after learning, studying, and researching other faiths.


The sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice to pay for ALL of our sins taught in the protestant church is why I would never leave it.

I believe that any little thing no matter how small it is that you are taught that you HAVE to do to obtain God's forgiveness of your sins other than Christ's sacrifice is in fact a denial of Christ.
 
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tigersnare said:
I want to know, what doctrine or doctrines most influenced your decision to be Protestant or remain Protestant after learning, studying, and researching other faiths.


*(This is somewhat of a followup of my last thread, but also rewored to gain the answers I am wanting to know.)*

Please only talk about the doctorines you belief in whole heartedly, there is no need to talk about the ones you do not, or the people whom believe those doctorines you don't agree with. Thanks! :pray:

Good day, Tigersnare

What if it was not 1 or many doctrine?


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tigersnare said:
I want to know, what doctrine or doctrines most influenced your decision to be Protestant or remain Protestant after learning, studying, and researching other faiths.


*(This is somewhat of a followup of my last thread, but also rewored to gain the answers I am wanting to know.)*

Please only talk about the doctorines you belief in whole heartedly, there is no need to talk about the ones you do not, or the people whom believe those doctorines you don't agree with. Thanks! :pray:
Well, I came to Jesus as a young child. I spent a lot of time with my praternal grandparents and my grandfather was a Penticostal preacher. When at home with my parents my mother and I attended a Baptist church. So. . .at that age and even now. . .the doctrine was Jesus Loves You and if you ask Him to forgive you of your sins He will. And He will make you clean and just like brand new.

As far as why I stay Protestent. . .I don't feel any need to leave.
 
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The number one Christian doctrine in all of the faith that kept me protestant and is proclaimed mightly in Spirit-filled churches.

Grace alone thru faith alone in Christ alone. (Ephesians 2:8-9)

It is the heart and soul of salvation and justification. All other biblical doctrines stem from this one truth of God. It is God's work alone. Man has no part in his salvation. NONE. A dead man cannot effect his salvation.
 
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tigersnare said:
Please guys, I would appreciate it very much if we all stayed inside the parameters suggested by the original post. The parameters were set up for the sake of unity. If you need or want further explaination why the parameters were set up, I would be more than happy to discuss with you.

Just to clarify, this thread is in no way, a place to talk about what you do not believe about Catholicism, how you feel about Cathlicism, or Catholic Theology.

This is where you talk about your beliefs, your theology, and your feelings about your Church.

I'm not trying to tie anyone hands, but I feel it would be more effective to lay down, in your opinion, sound doctrine that makes others go and research for themeselves the differences between yours, and thiers.

Good Day, Tigersnare

I will try to stay with in the boundries you set in the OP. I beleive that the Bible is the only infallible standard by which a christian is to live his life and only God has right to bind the heart of his children. God uses the Bible as a means to do his will in the life of the believer with the help of the Holy spirit a believer can learn all truth that God has revealed to his children.

Jesus his son is our saviour and Lord our paraclete and our pass over lamb. His work was completed for his Church on the cross and with out that work I would spent my eternal life in a place of torment. My salvation is the result of that work and is extented to me though His Grace though Faith with is the gift of God. All of the members of this Church are members based on the things that God has seen fit to accomplish in his time based on his will and though his means so that he may be glorified though the son.

For His Glory Alone!:clap:
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