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What Do You Think Of Naturism?

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I am a 20-something nudist, and a christian, and I can say that it isn't the nudity that's the problem for guys. First off, putting nudity in the "sexual box," like the church has, merely causes guys to have all those problems with arousal/sexual interest when they see a little skin (cleavage or thongs or bikinis, etc), and this is because they have been trained by the church and society to believe those things are supposed to be sexual, and they haven't been allowed to have experiences otherwise, and so their bodies react to it as such. If males growing up were allowed to be around nude females of different ages they would realize that females most of the time use their parts for peeing or nothing at all, and so would realize those parts are just as ordinary in most respects as an arm or a nose or anything else. And as for the incredibly heightened sexualness of the youth these days, when you combine how much sex is pushed in society, plus lack of engaging social programs that are also moral, plus horrible working conditions (compared to what they could be, a lot of jobs stink), plus lack of strong loving bonds from family and friends, plus lack of proper education about relationships and sexuality, there you have a ton of reasons why the youth are turning to sex and seem so horny. Sex feels good and releases chemicals in the brain that give people an emotional high/pick-me-up, and so people turn to it as a fix for the crappy conditions they live in, or to help get rid of boredom, or etc. And don't get me started on how every pre-teen/teenager movie seems to have the guy and girl kiss because obviously that first person they ever thought was attractive was clearly "the one" they were meant to be with the rest of their lives. Our whole society is the problem. Case in point- 99% of these people having unwanted pregnancies aren't nudists. Clothes don't stop sexuality, and typically people are kissing and fondling places they shouldn't be before the clothes even come off. Clothes are only merely pieces of earth we put on ourselves, it is the human that controls the human.

That said, people need to be around other people in the nude, even moreso in this day and age, so that they can see that bodies are no big deal, and that everyone has one. Not every female is a physically beautiful twenty-something; some women are old and wrinkly, some are still babies, some have more body fat, some have scars. And besides, the more genitalia you see, the more accustomed you become to them, and so it no longer becomes a focus of interest. It's like seeing the same trees on the same road you travel to work every day. Maybe the first few times you went passed you paid attention to them, but after a few times of noticing them, you don't really care anymore, save the random day where there is a pondering moment or you notice something you hadn't noticed/thought of before.

Where then is sexuality if the body isn't inherently strongly sexually stimulating? Easy. Adults and teens aren't dumb to the fact that people have sex. And they know they probably want to have a strong emotional relationship with someone at some point. They eventually meet a person they get along with, find beautiful enough for their tastes, hopefully get married, and then can engage their sexuality. That's another thing I don't like- people assuming that a man has to find a woman sexually stimulating for her to be right for marriage. Sexuality, imo, should be saved for marriage. Beauty/finding a woman aesthetically pleasing doesn't have to have a sexual connotation at all. Imo, humanity has simply fallen so far from God's ideas that we have actually started replacing "beautiful", even in our vocabulary, with "sexy." It's sad when a lot of christian youth seem to assume that a guy and girl in their teens shouldn't hang out together alone because some sort of sexual desire might start nudging them into eventual sexual activity. That's cutting off hanging out with HALF the human population. I'm sorry, but I don't think God designed male and female humans so sexually charged that alone time would automatically lead to sexual intercourse. Imo, like I said, the rise in sexual activity is strongly linked to the decrease of positive activities and relationships and God's kind of love in the world, because humans need something to help keep them going, and sex, albeit negative in the wrong contexts, still releases chemicals that make them feel good and helps them to carry on in their lives from day to day. Also in the pile of "helpers" is drugs and alcohol, which are quite prevalent in society as well.

That said, what do i think of nudism? I enjoy it. I like not having to wear a soggy swimsuit around after swimming. I like playing volleyball and not having to worry about getting sand inbetween my shorts and me where it grinds against my skin. I like the fact that I can laugh about getting caught in the rain. I like that if I accidently spill jelly or whatever other staining foods on my body, that I can just go wash it off. Farts are definitely worse though.

And as for Adam and Eve, have people thought about what nakedness it really was that Adam and Eve had realized about after sinning? If they were married, why would physical nudity be a big deal? And have people noticed what God clothed them in? It wasn't plants. Not to mention God commanded Isaiah to walk around nude for 3 years in Isaiah 20. If it was sin, God wouldn't have been able to command it, as even the Bible says that God tempts noone to sin (James 1:13).

And as for the "white robes," in Revelation: "...These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." Rev. 7:15- It doesn't seem like physical robes would be washed in Christ's blood, especially seeing as how it mentions they already had robes. And "Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear. (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.)" Rev. 19:8.
 
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I will be blunt with you here.

I Have looked at the Text of Genesis and studied it many times due to this issue as myself I was wondering about the same thing. I came to the conclusion of AFTER the fall of man God provided Adam & Eve coverings for their bodies because of sin. If God approves of nudism then why didn't He simply state so to Adam & Eve and tell them "Ok run around naked" rather than providing for them coverings?

I think a naturist would have a hard time answering it without saying OK indeed God had a reason for providing the coverings or you'd have to say well maybe God made a mistake (liar?) which I do not believe God makes mistakes....

That's my 2 cents
 
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If God approves of nudism then why didn't He simply state so to Adam & Eve and tell them "Ok run around naked" rather than providing for them coverings?

Hint: It's just a mythological explanation for the Jewish custom of adults to cover themselves with clothing while little children (in their prepubescent Adam & Eve like innocence) run around nekkid.


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Hint: It's just a mythological explanation for the Jewish custom of adults to cover themselves with clothing while little children (in their prepubescent Adam & Eve like innocence) run around nekkid.


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I think your scooping the issue to the side 'Going around the bush' as it were. You didn't really address the issue directly.
A. I take it you are a an non-believer or atheist as you address the Text as a Mythology I am addressing it to Believers.
B. You cannot Compare a child to an adult making a comparison in a way saying if it's ok for a child to so so then it is ok for an Adult.
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1. A Child does not understand everything about Morality and self-body images .
2. Children do not know any better - but comparing them to Adults is not a valid comparison at all - it is well known that a Child's Brain functions much differently than an adults I.E. You don't see Grown up adults sleeping 15 hours a day coloring with crayons or having no sense that something could go wrong in their world (evil people/murderers ect.)
 
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Naturism is a good way to be free in nature and with like minded people.
All beaches should have clothing optional areas or should be clothing optional
Children should be raised to learn that nudity is not evil by natural nudity in the home. Family nudity and games and bathes would do more to defeat porn than legislation. The church should have a service for those desiring to be nude as well as nude baptism. National parks should open their camps and trails to naturists. Our whole society is sex crazed,and it is not because of nudity, rather it is the concealing of nudity and using that to make money off of the natural human body. If more people went nude and had free access to areas to be nude, there would be less porn, not more. Let's just be free as God made us. Thanks, Rev.Ross
 
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I will be blunt with you here.

I Have looked at the Text of Genesis and studied it many times due to this issue as myself I was wondering about the same thing. I came to the conclusion of AFTER the fall of man God provided Adam & Eve coverings for their bodies because of sin. If God approves of nudism then why didn't He simply state so to Adam & Eve and tell them "Ok run around naked" rather than providing for them coverings?

I think a naturist would have a hard time answering it without saying OK indeed God had a reason for providing the coverings or you'd have to say well maybe God made a mistake (liar?) which I do not believe God makes mistakes....

That's my 2 cents
You need to do some more study and investigation.

The coats God provided were the glory of another since they rejected God's glory. Also they were kicked out of a perfect environment. What is the mean of a sacrifice? What does it do? Why were they done? What is the penalty of sin? In a sacrifice the innocent dies in place of the guilty. There are lots of things to consider about the issue. What was the intent of the first clothing invented by Adam and not God? Wasn't it to hide? Isn't that what we still do?
 
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For the nudists out there: Did you ever meet a nudist who is having a difficult time getting back into social nudism?

For me it is going slow and steady. I want to be a social nudist again but I am kind of shy around new people.

The Christian nudists on these boards have been very helpful. I want to go to at least one nudist event this summer. Thanks for the prayers.

God bless.
 
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On some naturist sites they talk about nude runs and nude bike rides for protests or for charity or just for fun.

Is this also part of naturism? Can nudists do this? Has anyone here tried it?

I'm not certain. I assume that nudists can do this if they want. No, I haven't tried it. I've only been to nude beaches so far.


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I think your scooping the issue to the side 'Going around the bush' as it were. You didn't really address the issue directly.

Perhaps, but I gave my particular perspective on the issue. That's all I really can do. I can't accept premises that I don't honestly accept.

A. I take it you are a an non-believer or atheist as you address the Text as a Mythology

Yes.

B. You cannot Compare a child to an adult making a comparison in a way saying if it's ok for a child to so so then it is ok for an Adult.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that I think that Adam and Eve are symbols for the pre-pubescent stage of maturation. That is all.


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On some naturist sites they talk about nude runs and nude bike rides for protests or for charity or just for fun.

Is this also part of naturism? Can nudists do this? Has anyone here tried it?
A nude run will probably be a good thing for me. Several resorts within driving distance have them every year. Love being without clothes.
 
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I basically agree here. Nudity is natural, and is as God made us.


So is defecation. I'm not in favor of doing it while in public view just because it's "natural." :doh:

By the way, anyone who calls this thing "Naturism" is in the same category as those who call gambling "Gaming." IOW, they know that there's something in it to be ashamed of.
 
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By the way, anyone who calls this thing "Naturism" is in the same category as those who call gambling "Gaming." IOW, they know that there's something in it to be ashamed of.

I've never had that impression. It seems like a apt term to express their views.


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