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Hallo Hix. I'm from there. It's my home. And I disagree completely, but in the interests of keeping the peace at CF, I won't debate you on this issue. I do have a right to an opinion and I've already voiced it. You voiced yours. Let us move on....Hix said:Your arguement would be more credible if you lived here in Northern Ireland like I do. You obviously know very little of the political agenda here, the DUP for example have their latest plan "devolution now" which is looking towards a stable government provided proven terrorists such as SF/IRA choose government over guns.
And while I dont agree that the Pope is the anti-christ, its his opinion and hes entitled to it.
So quick to judge, you are
Shalom and G-d bless
~Hix~
This is quite a mis-informed generalisation. The recent Troubles in NORTHERN Ireland (not the Republic of Ireland) was not started by Ian Paisley or his "mob." Never forget that the Civil Rights Movement in Northern Ireland was started by both Protestants and Roman Catholics in Northern Ireland. Their initial goal was to give rights to the Gypsies (Politically Correct terminology: Travellers) of Northern Ireland.Tangnefedd said:The recent troubles in Ireland were started by his mob inciting the protestants to victimise the Catholics. It is forgotten that the British troops originally went into Northern Ireland in the 60s to protect the Catholics from the extreme protestant paramilitaries. The Provos got a lot of support as they were seen to be on the side of the Catholics.
Really? Ian Paisley is respected by his constituents, no matter what their religious or political backgrounds, because of how hard he works for everyone.bertiebert said:it is a shame that someone who expresses his faith so veermently should have so little compassion/ respect for other peoples points of view
there is nothing more to be said
Suzannah said:Additionally, he is not simply "avoiding something he finds evil". He is actively and loudly promoting violence toward Catholics and all others who do not share his extreme theological and political views.
Suzannah said:You missed the point Doc. He is not avoiding anything. He is in fact, going out of his way to come into violent contact with Catholicism. You seem not to want to face that fact.
I've not heard him do this. Would you care to present some proof?Suzannah said:Well, since no one else will say it outright, I will.
He is a t-e-r-r-o-r-i-s-t. He supports terror, incites terror and encourages terror.
People that do this are militant loyalists - not Paisley himself.Suzannah said:Are you aware that Protestants who do not toe his "party line" (such as myself) are in as much danger from his followers as Catholics? Are you aware that Protestants who befriend Catholics sometimes wake up in the middle of the night with their houses on fire or their children beaten to pulps on the way home from school?
He was elected in about 1970 for the first time. From memory, I think he replaced Terence O'Neil - beat him in an election for the constituency. He had been running a campaign against O'Neil.d0c markus said:How exactly did he make it into office and how long has he been in office?
No. For a start, Paisley was elected by the people before he started any of those groups... including the DUP. I guess that puts paid to your theory then.Suzannah said:Hi there. Ian P. was the founder of the Ulster Protestant Volunteers and the Ulster Constitution defense Committee, the former a quasi paramilitary group, now having ties to a terrorist/paramilitary group in Northern Ireland. He made it into office, because a) that group carries tremendous "clout" and b) the majority of voters were Protestants. The DUP (Democratic Unionist Party) has ties to that group. (sounds a bit like tactics of organized crime doesn't it???? hmmm...)
Well personally I hope that we can get our own government back. Then Northern Ireland can be governed by the Irish and not the English. I'd rather not be 'reunited' with the South either.Tangnefedd said:I do hope that one day Northern Ireland can be reunited with the South. Partiton has not worked, the whole of Ireland should belong to the Irish imo, then maybe the terrible wrongs of history might be rectified.
I think he deserves a peaceful rest after helping us quell a European dictator from taking over the continent and turning it into a Catholic European Confederacy. The Pope of that time agreed with me.Tangnefedd said:I hope William of Orange is not resting easy in his grave, he has much to answer for.
Funny how you slag off Paisley who, admittedly has much to answer for. And yet, you see the light where the much more insidious IRA is concerned.Tangnefedd said:The Brits have treated the Irish without respect throughout the centuries. The IRA is a terrible organisation, but one can understand why they have some support!
This seems rather off the subject.Tangnefedd said:My grandmother was Irish, and although I could not stand the woman, when I visited Dublin I felt an instant rapport with those lovely folk.
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