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I'm seriously not trying to be mean to anyone or anything, really...and I really don't think I'm better than anyone else...but I have to ask something...
let's just say Muhammad was intelligent in a lot of things...and said many wise things...and let's say that at one time he ordered a group of people who left his religion to be killed...
just trying to give a scenario...
if so...doesn't it cast even an infinitesimal shadow of doubt as to the nature of a person who would allow one human being to kill another human being because the 2nd human being could not feel any longer an allegience to the first human being's faith? no one's perfect guys...
I'm seriously not trying to denigrate anyone's faith because I myself KNOW how painful it is for my faith to be insulted so I don't want to do this...I just can't help but wonder...does the fact that he ordered someone who left Islam (even if it was at one time) to be killed at least make you sit down and wonder if this kind of action is OK with you?
am i told you that it's condemend in modern arab countries ?Show me where it's condemned in modern Arab countries because it's no longer 'relevant'.
why aisha specefically , are you can't realize that 9yo girl can to be pregnant in this age ?Show me Aisha 'got pregnant' at that age.
okey , i'm sorry for that , i just felt that you wanna to refer to pedophilia of our prophetThat's not the argument. For instance never have I accused Muhammed of pedophilia and yet others keep using that word in their replies to me. Let's stick to the argument being made.
You mean he made up verses against Muhammed and this 'encited' emnity towards Islam and thus made him an enemy. In other words "Don't criticise Islam"
It's like the poetess Muhammed had murdered for her witty ditties.
I said "Islam is at war with all that is not under its rule"
So you're counter argument is "Islam isn't at war with the rest of the world because it gets on well with people under it's rule?"
That misses the mark completley. All you've done is confirmed the part of my address that Islam is NOT at war with that which is under it's rule. Not what it's reaction is to that which is NOT under it's rule.
Islam and Christianity are closely related, as are the Bible and the Quran. In my opinion, you can't attack one without attacking the other.
This is why I think it's silly when a Christian criticizes the Quran for being violent (or a Muslim criticizes the Bible for the same reason).
am i told you that it's condemend in modern arab countries ?[/quyote]
Am I confused as to what you're asking?
Condemn what?if it is condemend in any country so it isn't for relegious reasons , even jesus didn't condemned it
That's not the answer to my question. I asked you for proof Aisha got pregnant. How many kids did Muhammed have with her and when was that child born. Instead you wish to prove something about someone else entirely different.why aisha specefically , are you can't realize that 9yo girl can to be pregnant in this age ?
Again you're responding to something I've not said.okey , i'm sorry for that , i just felt that you wanna to refer to pedophilia of our prophet
Because you've made a false construct based on assumptions you have about religion.anaway Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!
so what is your problem with that ?
I note too - and none of my non-Christian/non-Moslem opponents have noted this, that you are defending the practice -even today.
Where's the howls of protest from my pagan neighbours here?
Silence.
So much a sign of the true nature of these faiths;
-defend a Moslem's assault on a child, or stay silent on this and draw up 'examples' from the OT which you wish to condemn.
As noted, your prophet thinks 'poems' are incitement.Kab did not simply insult the prophet Muhammad and Muslim women. He did much more, he went to the prophet’s enemies and incited against Muhammad alongside them.
In today’s legal system, if you incite murder that is seen as a crime and you yourself are guilty of murder as well. This is exactly what Kab did; he incited murder and violence, so therefore he was taken care of.
you point is clear , what about this verses
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"
Based on your opinion - it's silly. Well done
As a non-Christian/non-Moslem you've nothing to say AT ALL on Muhammed's crime towards a child?
Seriously.. what's wrong here that you guys can't condemn this action of Muhammed towards a nine year old girl.
Then it would probably explain why every time you see a rail against Muslims on an internet forum the age of Aisha changes every time. I've seen people say Aisha was as young as six years old in some discussions. Although I've also heard rumors online that when Mary was betrothed to Joseph she was twelve and he was in his sixties or seventies.
It's pretty sad when people cannot debate religious fundamentals without attacking significant religious figures.
As I said, the heroes in the Bible (with the exception of the story of Jesus) were no prize. Most of them did some pretty unspeakable things.
Since GOD Almighty enabled females in Aisha's age to get pregnant, as it happened even in our world today , then why can't her age be the minimum age for marriage, especially during the Biblical and Islamic days where people used to die between the ages of 40s and 50s due to diseases and malnutrition?
can you proof for me that marrying of girls in these age are opposed to any relegion in the world ?
For instance never have I accused Muhammed of pedophilia and yet others keep using that word in their replies to me.
what if the apostate converts to Christianity? is this a capital offense?
The reason why most Christians argue against Islam and use shoddy reasons such as Muhammed being married to a young girl or Jihadists being the prime example of how Muslims act on their faith is because they can't argue against the fundamentals. They're too similar to Christianity.
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