What do Christians think of Muhammad?

[Mallory Knox]

Just plain epileptic-seizure-induced bullcrap? Or what?

Who do you consider to be the firstborn son of Abraham, Isaac or Ishmael?

What do you think of Muslims in general? Do you hate their guts, as it appears? Why?

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

I think that they are confused, and misguided, but that they worship the same God as the Jews and the Christians.

I do not hate them, or anyone...not even you.

 

[SimpleChristian]

Mallory...I absolutely love muslims! Just as I love Jews, Mormons, Hindus, Athiests...and especially you Mallory! I love you beyond words or measure! You are a treasure!

I do not love what all of those expressed above belief in. You see, it is possible to seperate who a person is from what that person believes or does....love one and not like the other at all. I've never met a Muslim I didn't love....but I have never met one whom I loved what they believed. No, they don't worship the same God as me.....

Love you mallory!

 

[Mallory Knox]

Someone's on X...

Anyhow, so what do you guys think of Muhammad, specifically? That's really my main question. Was he a liar, was he sick, what?

 

[bartleby]

all,
sorry to go off topic but am slightly curious about simple christian's post.
on the subject of muhammed Karen Armstrong has written an excellent biography of him that's well worth reading.

mallory,
your question reminds me of the famous C.S. Lewis one about Christ. To paraphrase it for these purposes it would be - who was Muhammed - a liar, a madman, or a prophet of God?


simple christian,
nice post but three things come to mind -
1) your signature seems to contradict your post. you said "it is possible to seperate who a person is from what that person believes or does"
wheras your signature says - "It is our actions and decisions, Harry, that make us who we are"

2) i'm trying to avoid the question "who is a person except for their beliefs and actions?" so instead - what can we know of a person except for their beliefs and actions? and can we love someone if we don't know them? and then if it is the case that we can - what is love?

3) would you say that your particular religious belief is an integral part of who you are?

thanks
bb

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Originally posted by SimpleChristian
No, they don't worship the same God as me.....

If you worship Yawhew, ie Jehovah, ie "God," then you worship Allah. Same God.

 

[SimpleChristian]

bartle....I have that quote on there because I happen to really like the Harry Potter books...and I think that is one of the best quotes from them.

when I say seperate...I am talking of a 'sinful' nature from the person themselves. For example, during my early years my father was a 'active' alcoholic....I loved my dad, but hated what he did and how he acted when drinking.

souljah...semantically you can say that allah and God are the same....practically they are very different. That is like me saying I worship Jesus, but prescribe to MY version of Jesus aspects that are completely contrary to those found in Scripture. Even though I have named by god by the same name, does not make Him the same person.

 

[Patmosman_sga]

Originally posted by s0uljah


If you worship Yawhew, ie Jehovah, ie "God," then you worship Allah. Same God.

Wrong. "Allah" is a generic name for a myriad of pagan Near Eastern deities. "Yahweh" is the personal name of the God of Israel, revealed in history as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the only true God.

 

[Jenna]

What do I think of Muhammad?

Well, I guess that the easiest way to say it is that I think that he was incorrect and was envious of God's chosen people, so he decided to re-write the book to change things in his and his people's favor. Being the decendants of God-blessed Ishmael was not enough, so Muhammad raised him in position. I don't think that it makes him crazy or anything, but I'm not going to even speculate on why he decided that he needed to do this.

I also do not believe that Allah and Yahweh are the same. If one believes in the infallibility of the Bible, it strikes me as difficult to remedy the differences between what Yahweh said and what Allah supposedly dictated to the angel Gabriel.

How do I feel about muslims? Well, to tell you the truth, I respect their devotion and obedience a great deal. While I believe that there are some who consider themselves muslim who are completely crazy(like some Christian cults, mind you.), the majority are sound and well-rounded individuals. I think that Christians can learn a great deal from the piety and obedience of the muslims. We say that we love our God, but there are SO many Christians who do not show reverence or love in their lives or in the 'good' works that they are doing as God's hands on earth. In short, I think that the muslims hearts are in the right place, but the wrong god.

Jenna

P.s.- Obviously, no offense was meant, if any was given.

 

[Othniel]

Muhammed was a warrior king who realized that the best way to get his followers to die for him was to give them a religion they would die for. He was a false prophet and, by way of 2 John 1:7, He is one of many anti-christs.

I think the entire situation is brutally sad.

Ishmael was the first male born of Abraham, but, being born of a concubine, that does not entitle him to "sonship" unless the father decided to bestow such a gift upon him. Abraham did not do this. Yet, God did make him into a great nation none the less, but a nation which was and is still a slave to the Law.

Likewise, this just makes me sad.

What do I think about Muslims? They are people, just like everyone else, lost in a world which is full of hatred and darkness, and searching for the Truth. I pray that they find it, every single one of them.

Peace to all who seek it,
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[Patmosman_sga]

Originally posted by Othniel
Muhammed was a warrior king who realized that the best way to get his followers to die for him was to give them a religion they would die for. He was a false prophet and, by way of 2 John 1:7, He is one of many anti-christs.

I think the entire situation is brutally sad.

Ishmael was the first male born of Abraham, but, being born of a concubine, that does not entitle him to "sonship" unless the father decided to bestow such a gift upon him. Abraham did not do this. Yet, God did make him into a great nation none the less, but a nation which was and is still a slave to the Law.

Likewise, this just makes me sad.

What do I think about Muslims? They are people, just like everyone else, lost in a world which is full of hatred and darkness, and searching for the Truth. I pray that they find it, every single one of them.

Peace to all who seek it,
<><

Well said!

 

[ZiSunka]

Mohammed, according to the Haddith, the second most holy book in Islam, often wondered if he was demon-possessed, not god-possessed. I agree with that wondering.

I know that his teachings cannot be from God, because God cannot say "This is my beloved son" in one book (The NT), and "It is a terrible sin to say that I have a son," in another book (Koran). If it is the same God, why the schizophrenia??!!

It sounds like something satan would want people to believe, so that they would not be tempted to believe in Christ and be set free.

 

[seebs]

I don't know about Mohammed. The muslims I have talked to are, for the most part, clearly worshipping a God whose qualities are very similar to those of the God I worship. I believe they are probably mistaken on several questions of fact about Him, but nonetheless, they appear to genuinely be seeking Him, and I think that their sincere prayers that He guide them are sometimes answered.

Like Christians, they sometimes have the problem that, once they've made up their mind to do something, they will pray to God to "confirm" their decision, never considering what to do if He says "No." - and thus, they don't hear Him when they're wrong. Still, we *ALL* do that sometimes.

It is possible that I misunderstand them, or their beliefs. However, I don't know for sure, and I am instructed not to condemn... I'll settle for "it is clear that some of them believe false things, and it is also clear that some of them are seeking after the one and only Creator".

 

[PrinceJeff]

I heard he married one of his wives when she was 6 and he 54, consummating the marriage three years later.

 

[Jenna]

Yup.

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by PrinceJeff
I heard he married one of his wives when she was 6 and he 54, consummating the marriage three years later.

9 sounds young to me, but cultural norms for what's "old enough" vary quite widely; while this sounds bad, I don't know for sure where the line is drawn. It's certainly not universally set at 18 years, morally speaking; "majority" is a cultural concept. Some cultures associate the beginnings of physical maturity (first period) with legal majority, and some girls start as early as 9-10, although it's unusual.

 

[debs]

ummm...I dont think of Muhammed at all!
Lots of people around here are good at asking questions but hardly ever say why...maybe we can answer the question in your heart thats behind the question that you asked. So why do you ask Mall K?

 

[kenneth]

Muhammad&nbsp;was a false prophet.&nbsp; It is very possible that in the beginning his "revelations" were&nbsp;the result of demonic oppression; it is telling that he wasn't sure himself. So much of the Quran is self serving that I believe Muhammad made most of it himself. Muslims are living in darkness and have been grossly deceived. &nbsp;

 

[LouisBooth]

He was wrong. That's about it.

 

[Job_38]

Originally posted by s0uljah


If you worship Yawhew, ie Jehovah, ie "God," then you worship Allah. Same God.

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&nbsp;They worship a God that tells them to do differently then God has told us. Names have nothing to do with it, it is what's behind it.

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&nbsp;And Muslims worship the Quran, not Allah.

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