What did Paul mean "handed over to Satan"?

[PittBullMom]

Timothy, my son, I am giving you this command in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by recalling them you may fight the battle well, holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith. Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
1 Timothy 1:18‭-‬20 NIV

 

[PittBullMom]

A part b to the post....what prophecies were made about him? (Timothy)

 

[ChristIsSovereign]

Perhaps excommunication?

 

[timewerx]

Satan teaches not to blaspheme?

 

[PittBullMom]

Perhaps excommunication?

I have this app, catena...it has commentaries of the church fathers in it. That is basically what they said. But couldn't he just have said that? Or just said cut off? Why specifically delivering to Satan himself. I just don't understand ....why give someone to Satan?

 

[PittBullMom]

Satan teaches not to blaspheme?

This was addressed by Chrysostom...he said no he does not...but I'm having a hard time understanding his explanation of the rest as well. I need a commentary to the commentary lol

 

[Tayla]

Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

Handed over to Satan = excommunicated

 

[God bless Joshua]

Satan teaches not to blaspheme?

Not at all, satan cant teach any goodness.

What Paul meant was the punishment of the flesh so the that man may repent.
1 Cor 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Like the devil did to Job
Job 2:6 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

God can punish people with disease so they may repent.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they REPENT of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts

Apostle can do that with their Apostolic power such as done to Ananias and Sapira.

 

[ArmyMatt]

yeah, handed over to Satan I think means excommunicated or put under a ban to teach repentance by letting the Devil beat them up for a bit.

 

[Eloy Craft]

Not at all, satan cant teach any goodness.

What Paul meant was the punishment of the flesh so the that man may repent.
1 Cor 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Like the devil did to Job
Job 2:6 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

God can punish people with disease so they may repent.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they REPENT of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts

Apostle can do that with their Apostolic power such as done to Ananias and Sapira.

God Bless Joshua got it right I think. Just to add:

I think that is what Paul is doing , with his power to bind and loose, he was handing them over to the test. In the Our Father, we pray "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil". Paul was handing them over to evil so that their faith would be tested. The test is a revelation of self.

James 1:12
Blessed is anyone who endures temptation. Such a one has stood the test and will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.

Psalms 17:3
If you try my heart, if you visit me by night, if you test me, you will find no wickedness in me; my mouth does not transgress.

Rev. 2:10
Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Beware, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison so that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have affliction. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

1 Peter 1:7
so that the genuineness of your faith—being more precious than gold that, though perishable, is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.

 

[PittBullMom]

I suppose with the apostolic power to bind and loose...with most of Gospel's messages being mercy, I never think about the need to actually bind a person.

In our lives...when would it be appropriate to do this to a person? Blasphemy is the example here in this passage....but would anyone do this in this day and age for any particular reason? and how?

 

[Eloy Craft]

I suppose with the apostolic power to bind and loose...with most of Gospel's messages being mercy, I never think about the need to actually bind a person.

In our lives...when would it be appropriate to do this to a person? Blasphemy is the example here in this passage....but would anyone do this in this day and age for any particular reason? and how?

I know! I've never been told " you are not absolved of your sin"

I don't think what St. Paul did would be appropriate for our times. I think by the time Paul was preparing Timothy to be Bishop he knew he was laying a ground floor that had to be solid and last until Christ returned. That was a unique time that must have needed that kind of authority and execution. The ends and beginnings of ages overlap and suspend time so maybe it might be appropriate again

I think maybe some politicians should be handed over now that I'm thinking about it. The ones that say I'm pro-life but.....

 

[ArmyMatt]

I suppose with the apostolic power to bind and loose...with most of Gospel's messages being mercy, I never think about the need to actually bind a person.

In our lives...when would it be appropriate to do this to a person? Blasphemy is the example here in this passage....but would anyone do this in this day and age for any particular reason? and how?

not to get specific, but I had it happen to me some years ago. it still still happens in some areas, and depending on the person and the sin, it should.