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when Jesus said don't condemn others he meant
don't sentence people to hell
Basically, spread the gospel the proper way?
Then what is lacking in your experience ?
All the messengers of YHWH in the NT who remained faithful
were even sifted by hasatan,
then recovered ,
and turned to help others likewise sifted.
To keep living with a beam in the eye is , I expect, very sinful indeed
Who says spreading the Gospel is necessarily the same as warning people about hell?
In our tradition there's a big difference between God's Law and the Gospel, and one doesn't do the same thing as the other.
Amen, adulterers are perhaps best able to minister to adulterers without condemnation , to show them the way of Salvation in Jesus;My experience has been something like that. I am alcoholic and went into recovery in AA 4 and 1/2 years ago and have remained sober. I am able to help others recovery from alcoholism who want to, in the same way that I was helped. While it could go back in quite easily, for now that particular beam is 'out of my eye'. I don't judge or condemn others who drink though, even if they drink alcoholically. I simply offer them a way out and the same help that I was given if they want it.
On the whole though, there are many 'beams', and yes they need to be removed and worked on. Lust, selfishness, laziness, wraith, pride - the usual suspects. These are things that are not always so black and white and we all have them in various shades. I went through a period recently where I hated my neighbor, rather than loved him. And I was pretty judging and condemning while I was doing it. So, I feel like it's safer to repent and keep myself recused from the bench in general, on top of that fact that I've been commanded to (for my own good, and I suspect, the safety of others). I'm simply not qualified. Helping people on the whole seems both the better way to go and the way to get better, and we are the best witnesses for deliverance in the areas we ourselves have personally been delivered from.
Luke 12:1 "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy". I think that was not just him saying "watch out for those guys." I think what He meant was, "watch out for this in yourself."
Absolutely.In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others. Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job?
Absolutely.And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing?
Telling people about the dangers of hell is quite different than telling them they are going to hell. We don't know who will or will not go to hell.How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell?
Absolutely. No one knows what may occur in a person's life that will change them. Take Paul as an example.Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus."
We may point out another person's sin but we should remember that we are not perfect and still fail at times to follow Jesus. Be as gentle as possible and always remember of the great mercy that we were shown by God. Being a forgiving and loving person are essential qualities for God's children.But there has to be more to it than that. Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others? Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?
In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others. Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job? And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing? How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell? Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus." that obviously is God's job. But there has to be more to it than that. Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others? Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?
The good news is that you can be delivered from hell right now..... Not an introduction to a future hell that they will go to if they don't believe what you are about to tell them.General stern warning is not condemning anyone, and it may be the biggest favor you can ever do or they will ever recieve.
I have no traditions of men to use as scapegoat but the whole gospel from start to finish includes hell and the warnings thereof. No way I'm going to skip that...God doesn't, nor does Jesus.
Look in the NT for very accurate descriptions.Telling people about the dangers of hell is quite different than telling them they are going to hell. We don't know who will or will not go to hell.
The good news is that you can be delivered from hell right now..... Not an introduction to a future hell that they will go to if they don't believe what you are about to tell them.
One must be careful when looking at a list of sinful acts and then attempting to judge others by them because the one showing judgment just might be guilty as well.Look in the NT for very accurate descriptions.
General stern warning is not condemning anyone, and it may be the biggest favor you can ever do or they will ever recieve.
I have no traditions of men to use as scapegoat but the whole gospel from start to finish includes hell and the warnings thereof. No way I'm going to skip that...God doesn't, nor does Jesus.
Who said in Scripture to look at a list of sinful acts (or a LIST of anything for that matter) ?One must be careful when looking at a list of sinful acts and then attempting to judge others by them because the one showing judgment just might be guilty as well.
First you say it is not a tradition of men,It's not a "tradition of men".
apparently referring not only to what is tradition of men,It's our experience preaching the Gospel for 500 years, and the experience of Christian before then.
It's not a "tradition of men". It's our experience preaching the Gospel for 500 years, and the experience of Christian before then. Some things just don't work, they make people more religious, more pharisaical, but they will never cause people to have faith that trusts in the finished work of Christ for their salvation.
Well, technically you.Who said in Scripture to look at a list of sinful acts (or a LIST of anything for that matter) ?
Yes, no. or No, yes? (depends on YHWH'S Revelation, of course, as even the Apostles and disciples depended on His Revelation in order to understand Scripture, as written)Well, technically you.
When you provide my quote "We don't know who will or will not go to hell." and respond , "Look in the NT for very accurate descriptions" you are telling me to look in scripture to find who is going to hell or not.
God does not say which of our neighbors are going to heaven or hell in scripture. A person who appears to be mired in sin today may be a devout Christian in a year.Yes, no. or No, yes? (depends on YHWH'S Revelation, of course, as even the Apostles and disciples depended on His Revelation in order to understand Scripture, as written)
YHWH does not leave us unknowing, unless He chooses to for a time, or for His Own Reason (as when He tells who cannot know). If anyone wants to know, they can go to Him, and He may reveal the simple answer from His Word .
How can you tell if your neighbor is mired in sin,God does not say which of our neighbors are going to heaven or hell in scripture. A person who appears to be mired in sin today may be a devout Christian in a year.
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