What Did God mean be of One Mind.

[Bluelion]

In the Bible God says be of one mind. What did He mean? Phil 2 The Mind of Christ? Is the true body of one mind? Because the churches of this world are anything but one mind. In fact Christian churches I have found rarely agree on anything but Jesus is King. Some no doubt will say that is enough, but is it? Demons agree Jesus is King yet they certainly are not of His kingdom.

Christianity is like a war zone it is a miracle by the work of God that any one gets saved at all. Why do Christians disagree so much? I don't think they even want to agree most of them.

I have looked for people of the same mind, i have made some friends different denominations we disagree yet enjoy speaking with other, i think.

The greatest commandment is the hardest isn't it? Love each other as your self.

Why is it so hard? People debate and I have caught many who don't want to change their mind they want to be right, so even when you make a clear point they just move on to what they object to next.

I came on here seeking fellowship, I have found it with friends on here but not really anyone else. There is not fellowship in the forums that is for sure, people want to argue. You get one in every thread.

What about me? Sure I have fallen into the fray. Did not start off that way. Funny how people insult one another, sure i do it to, I am not with out sin, but some people do not seem to care at all.

The question I have is would you speak this way before God, i think many would say no, but you are in front of God He is watching right now. He knows who you are, and what you do.That is one thing I can say while I don't think God is pleased with every word I spoke on here, I would not hide it from Him either. I feel He knows why I said what I said, and in most cases it was people getting the best of me.

My mistake was thinking I could find a refuge among Christians. The Lord is my refuge and He does not share that. I find my safe place from the world in Him, which is why I talk about Him. I love it, He is my Home.

I seem to have become a target or magnet not sure which. This site has not brought out the best in me or in others. I really need to think long and hard if I want to stay. Maybe what I am saying is I am done. You can't talk about God here, every time I do some part of what I say is attack every single post. That is a shame. While some have told me they enjoy my post, this site reflects the world and not the church.

People wonder why Christians are looked at the way they are. They chalk it up to well I follow Jesus, do you? I mean really? What do you think Paul would say if they said about Cor I don't like your grammar? Certainly I am no Paul, but the point was we are both speaking of God, should not the message be taken and received rather then Judged by worldly standards? Yes judging a persons intelligence on grammar is worldly and not Of God. Judging the content of writing based on correct Grammar is worldly. That is like judging a book by its wrapping no, so if i wrap waste up nice and need you eat it down. It is wrapped right after all.

Insulting a person because you don't like their ideas is worldly.
Mocking a person is worldly.
In fact using your own judgement to judge a persons and not comparing them to the word is worldly.
Belittling people is worldly.
Shunning people is worldly.
Ganging up on people is worldly.

Make a friend of this world you make an enemy of God. God said that.


Foo Fighters- Best of You (With Lyrics) - YouTube

 

[twin1954]

In the Bible God says be of one mind. What did He mean? Phil 2 The Mind of Christ? Is the true body of one mind? Because the churches of this world are anything but one mind. In fact Christian churches I have found rarely agree on anything but Jesus is King. Some no doubt will say that is enough, but is it? Demons agree Jesus is King yet they certainly are not of His kingdom.

Christianity is like a war zone it is a miracle by the work of God that any one gets saved at all. Why do Christians disagree so much? I don't think they even want to agree most of them.

I have looked for people of the same mind, i have made some friends different denominations we disagree yet enjoy speaking with other, i think.

The greatest commandment is the hardest isn't it? Love each other as your self.

Why is it so hard? People debate and I have caught many who don't want to change their mind they want to be right, so even when you make a clear point they just move on to what they object to next.

I came on here seeking fellowship, I have found it with friends on here but not really anyone else. There is not fellowship in the forums that is for sure, people want to argue. You get one in every thread.

What about me? Sure I have fallen into the fray. Did not start off that way. Funny how people insult one another, sure i do it to, I am not with out sin, but some people do not seem to care at all.

The question I have is would you speak this way before God, i think many would say no, but you are in front of God He is watching right now. He knows who you are, and what you do.That is one thing I can say while I don't think God is pleased with every word I spoke on here, I would not hide it from Him either. I feel He knows why I said what I said, and in most cases it was people getting the best of me.

My mistake was thinking I could find a refuge among Christians. The Lord is my refuge and He does not share that. I find my safe place from the world in Him, which is why I talk about Him. I love it, He is my Home.

I seem to have become a target or magnet not sure which. This site has not brought out the best in me or in others. I really need to think long and hard if I want to stay. Maybe what I am saying is I am done. You can't talk about God here, every time I do some part of what I say is attack every single post. That is a shame. While some have told me they enjoy my post, this site reflects the world and not the church.

People wonder why Christians are looked at the way they are. They chalk it up to well I follow Jesus, do you? I mean really? What do you think Paul would say if they said about Cor I don't like your grammar? Certainly I am no Paul, but the point was we are both speaking of God, should not the message be taken and received rather then Judged by worldly standards? Yes judging a persons intelligence on grammar is worldly and not Of God. Judging the content of writing based on correct Grammar is worldly. That is like judging a book by its wrapping no, so if i wrap waste up nice and need you eat it down. It is wrapped right after all.

Insulting a person because you don't like their ideas is worldly.
Mocking a person is worldly.
In fact using your own judgement to judge a persons and not comparing them to the word is worldly.
Belittling people is worldly.
Shunning people is worldly.
Ganging up on people is worldly.

Make a friend of this world you make an enemy of God. God said that.


Foo Fighters- Best of You (With Lyrics) - YouTube

First, of all the nature of internet forums is disagreement. That is what drives them. Those that are supposed to be about fellowship have very little to no traffic.

Second, to disagree is not worldly. To go to war over our disagreements is. Of course we do not live in Eutopia we live in a real world. Deal with it.

Third, don't assume that being blunt is a sign of personal attack. Love is often blunt. It could be that someone is trying to help you rather than tear you down. Very often the walls of defense must be torn down in order to reach the one you love. The Lord was vey blunt and tore down the preconceptions of the rich young ruler. In fact He always dealt with the obstinate sinner at his point of rebellion. Being challenged in your thinking is rarely a pleasant experience. Tough love is often required.

Fourth, being zealous for the truth is not a sin. Defending the truth is not a sin.

Last, it isn't about you and it isn't about grammar. Your intelligence was never in question. The way you communicated that intelligence was the point. Growing up during the 60's when manliness was actually being manly I have little sympathy for pity parties. Again deal with it. You can leave if you wish but I doubt very seriously that you will find what you are looking for on the internet.

 

[Bluelion]

First, of all the nature of internet forums is disagreement. That is what drives them. Those that are supposed to be about fellowship have very little to no traffic.

Second, to disagree is not worldly. To go to war over our disagreements is. Of course we do not live in Eutopia we live in a real world. Deal with it.

Third, don't assume that being blunt is a sign of personal attack. Love is often blunt. It could be that someone is trying to help you rather than tear you down. Very often the walls of defense must be torn down in order to reach the one you love. The Lord was vey blunt and tore down the preconceptions of the rich young ruler. In fact He always dealt with the obstinate sinner at his point of rebellion. Being challenged in your thinking is rarely a pleasant experience. Tough love is often required.

Fourth, being zealous for the truth is not a sin. Defending the truth is not a sin.

Last, it isn't about you and it isn't about grammar. Your intelligence was never in question. The way you communicated that intelligence was the point. Growing up during the 60's when manliness was actually being manly I have little sympathy for pity parties. Again deal with it. You can leave if you wish but I doubt very seriously that you will find what you are looking for on the internet.

2nd point I never said disagreeing was worldly, you speak of truth and say things I never said. Hmm. That is not truth but worldly.

3rd point 4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5 or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6 It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

Your definition of Love does not fit, and tough Love is a worldly expression, its used when a person is not using Love. My Mom went to a tough Love group and told me it was tough love when she abandon me at 17. Again if you have to use the phrase tough Love you ain't loving. God is Love 1 john 4:8. I don't know anything stronger than Love, to put tough in front of the strongest force in the universe is oxymoron. The Lord spoke truth, always with out fail. Sure people don't like truth, are you saying it is true you can judge a person based on grammar? because that is lie.

forth never said anything against truth

and last.
the term manliness is worldly idea. In Fact you would not measure up to me in that area. I was a football player who later trained with the Best fighters in the world. I have the manly thing down, you know what I found out is that it is worldly and no one stands tall in the face of God, or even when facing evil alone. Good thing I was never alone.

You have no pity well its written in the Bible Jesus took pity on them, So are you more of a man than Jesus? WHat you really say is you have no mercy? If that is true you will get none.

For the record this is not a pity party but how I feel, You can keep your pity, and I don't need mercy from you if you have none to give because I have God's mercy. And no that is not pride, That is God in my heart. I lay down my pride daily with God's help, I highly recommend it, because God works aginst the prideful.

Like I said you get on in every thread rest my case i guess you did not listen to the song.

 

[twin1954]

2nd point I never said disagreeing was worldly, you speak of truth and say things I never said. Hmm. That is not truth but worldly.

3rd point 4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5 or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6 It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

Your definition of Love does not fit, and tough Love is a worldly expression, its used when a person is not using Love. My Mom went to a tough Love group and told me it was tough love when she abandon me at 17. Again if you have to use the phrase tough Love you ain't loving. God is Love 1 john 4:8. I don't know anything stronger than Love, to put tough in front of the strongest force in the universe is oxymoron. The Lord spoke truth, always with out fail. Sure people don't like truth, are you saying it is true you can judge a person based on grammar? because that is lie.

forth never said anything against truth

and last.
the term manliness is worldly idea. In Fact you would not measure up to me in that area. I was a football player who later trained with the Best fighters in the world. I have the manly thing down, you know what I found out is that it is worldly and no one stands tall in the face of God, or even when facing evil alone. Good thing I was never alone.

You have no pity well its written in the Bible Jesus took pity on them, So are you more of a man than Jesus? WHat you really say is you have no mercy? If that is true you will get none.

For the record this is not a pity party but how I feel, You can keep your pity, and I don't need mercy from you if you have none to give because I have God's mercy. And no that is not pride, That is God in my heart. I lay down my pride daily with God's help, I highly recommend it, because God works aginst the prideful.

Like I said you get on in every thread rest my case i guess you did not listen to the song.

Calling everything worldly is easy and an excuse. You say that you don't want a pity party but everything you say is reaching for pity. Your Mom, really was that necessary to bring up?

I am sorry that you are so closed minded that you can't see that I am trying to help you but I guess we are beyond that now.

Think about how you described me and 1Cor. 13. Would I even bother with you if I didn't care? Because I challenge you I am not loving?

BTW I was a construction worker for 40 years and was among the most rough and tumble men you can imagine. Most of the people I was associated with were either going to prison or just got out. I also spent several years as a Martial Arts teacher so you got nothing on me except possibly age. But with age comes wisdom and you learn to do things smarter not harder.

No I didn't listen to the song. It was worldly.

 

[Avid]

... My mistake was thinking I could find a refuge among Christians...

I cannot tell what you are looking for. I had offered things that helped me when I was facing things like what you described. Have not seen any attempt at fellowship from you since. I have found fellowship from a few others here, though.

... Your definition of Love does not fit, and tough Love is a worldly expression, its used when a person is not using Love. My Mom went to a tough Love group and told me it was tough love when she abandon me at 17...

Very sorry that your Mom treated you that way. The Tough Love thing there was not love. Someone trying to point you in the right direction may be the best love you will find on this Earth, though.

Hebrews 12
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
​

Scourging is about the worst beating you can get. Some have died from it. That is why there is often a limit of 39 lashes, because more than forty could be fatal.

I have not gotten between you and any of the people you argue with since I am not convinced anything I could say would get you to understand anything differently than what you are already convinced about. That does not mean I always agree or disagree with EITHER, but that there must be an open heart toward God for any instruction to take hold.

Acts 16
14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.
​

Here is the true meaning of love. What people like to take from I Corinthians 13 is usually something they wish to take from it, and not true reality of what was said there. Here is LOVE and Kindness, and letting someone go away SAD:

Mark 10
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
​

LOVE?!? This man loved his possessions, but Jesus loved him.

... i guess you did not listen to the song.

Don't know anything about that group or that song. I tried, but could not listen past the first line, and can see it is of the world. Am not sure what kind of deception you are under to think bringing something like that in here will foster fellowship among Christian brethren.

Is there no Christian Hymn that speaks truth to your heart? Is spiritual music too boring? For an example, I like the words of Martin Luther almost 500 years ago in "A Mighty Fortress is Our God." Isaac Watts wrote "When I Survey the Wondrous Cross" about 300 years ago. Many more good things written by those who knew our LORD are meant to lead us in the right direction.

Martin Luther, at one time, said that he was likely the most hated man in the world. If you are feeling a need, and are not having it fulfilled by anyone on this Earth, seek Luther's way to have your concerns and needs addressed by God's Holy Spirit and the truth of His word. Seeking affirmation or credence from the world is actually running the wrong direction.

.

 

[Emmy]

Dear Bluelion. I say this with love, to love one`s neighbour is the second Commandment. Jesus told us in Matthew 22: 35-40: " The first and great Commandment is: Love God with all our hearts, with all our souls, and with all our minds. The second is like it: Love our neighbour as we love ourselves."
Jesus even points out: " On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." They are not easy, but God is giving us His Love and help in Matthew 7: 7-10: We are told: " ask and ye shall receive," we ask God for Love and Joy, then we thank God, and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour: all we know and all we meet, friends and not friends. We keep asking and thanking God, then keep sharing all Love and Joy with our neighbour. God will see our loving efforts, and God will approve and Bless us.
The Bible tells us: " Repent and be Born Again," God wants us to give up our Sin-Nature, and become loving and caring, plus the occasional hand.
God is Love and God wants loving sons and daughters. Jesus our Saviour will help and guide us, and we know that Satan and his followers will flee from
all Love and Compassion.
Let us all be of one Mind, Love God with all our beings, and love our neighbour as we love ourselves. Love is a Christian`s strong weapon, with love we can overcome all enmity and wrong behaviour. I say this with love, Bluelion.
Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

 

[standingtall]

...this site reflects the world and not the church.
<snip>
Insulting a person because you don't like their ideas is worldly.
Mocking a person is worldly.
In fact using your own judgement to judge a persons and not comparing them to the word is worldly.
Belittling people is worldly.
Shunning people is worldly.
Ganging up on people is worldly.

Make a friend of this world you make an enemy of God. God said that.

Foo Fighters- Best of You (With Lyrics) - YouTube

Attaching a link and recommendation to watch a worldly video in a post condemning worldly things seems to be counterproductive.

Disclaimer: My response is directed at the content of the post and not the author of the post.

 

[Bluelion]

Calling everything worldly is easy and an excuse. You say that you don't want a pity party but everything you say is reaching for pity. Your Mom, really was that necessary to bring up?

I am sorry that you are so closed minded that you can't see that I am trying to help you but I guess we are beyond that now.

Think about how you described me and 1Cor. 13. Would I even bother with you if I didn't care? Because I challenge you I am not loving?

BTW I was a construction worker for 40 years and was among the most rough and tumble men you can imagine. Most of the people I was associated with were either going to prison or just got out. I also spent several years as a Martial Arts teacher so you got nothing on me except possibly age. But with age comes wisdom and you learn to do things smarter not harder.

No I didn't listen to the song. It was worldly.

so you label me as closed minded, That is worldly to label people.

The song is worldly, how so, and how do you know if you didn't hear it. Yeah people in prison are nothing compared to guys who trained 20 or more years on how to kill you with their bare hands. Let's have a worldly discussion On what makes a man. I say Jesus is the most manly man, He never hit anyone, He flead to other towns when people attack Him, He did not even fight back when they killed Him, but He loved them. That is a man and strength.

anything else?

 

[Bluelion]

I cannot tell what you are looking for. I had offered things that helped me when I was facing things like what you described. Have not seen any attempt at fellowship from you since. I have found fellowship from a few others here, though.


Very sorry that your Mom treated you that way. The Tough Love thing there was not love. Someone trying to point you in the right direction may be the best love you will find on this Earth, though.

Hebrews 12
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
​

Scourging is about the worst beating you can get. Some have died from it. That is why there is often a limit of 39 lashes, because more than forty could be fatal.

I have not gotten between you and any of the people you argue with since I am not convinced anything I could say would get you to understand anything differently than what you are already convinced about. That does not mean I always agree or disagree with EITHER, but that there must be an open heart toward God for any instruction to take hold.

Acts 16
14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.
​

Here is the true meaning of love. What people like to take from I Corinthians 13 is usually something they wish to take from it, and not true reality of what was said there. Here is LOVE and Kindness, and letting someone go away SAD:

Mark 10
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
​

LOVE?!? This man loved his possessions, but Jesus loved him.


Don't know anything about that group or that song. I tried, but could not listen past the first line, and can see it is of the world. Am not sure what kind of deception you are under to think bringing something like that in here will foster fellowship among Christian brethren.

Is there no Christian Hymn that speaks truth to your heart? Is spiritual music too boring? For an example, I like the words of Martin Luther almost 500 years ago in "A Mighty Fortress is Our God." Isaac Watts wrote "When I Survey the Wondrous Cross" about 300 years ago. Many more good things written by those who knew our LORD are meant to lead us in the right direction.

Martin Luther, at one time, said that he was likely the most hated man in the world. If you are feeling a need, and are not having it fulfilled by anyone on this Earth, seek Luther's way to have your concerns and needs addressed by God's Holy Spirit and the truth of His word. Seeking affirmation or credence from the world is actually running the wrong direction.

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WOW now you admit you did not listen to the worlds or read them and yet you judge with out hearing or understand. How would you like God to judge you that way.

Are we to go back to rock and roll is the devil. Oh brother. I rest my case about worldly judgement.

 

[Bluelion]

Dear Bluelion. I say this with love, to love one`s neighbour is the second Commandment. Jesus told us in Matthew 22: 35-40: " The first and great Commandment is: Love God with all our hearts, with all our souls, and with all our minds. The second is like it: Love our neighbour as we love ourselves."
Jesus even points out: " On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." They are not easy, but God is giving us His Love and help in Matthew 7: 7-10: We are told: " ask and ye shall receive," we ask God for Love and Joy, then we thank God, and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour: all we know and all we meet, friends and not friends. We keep asking and thanking God, then keep sharing all Love and Joy with our neighbour. God will see our loving efforts, and God will approve and Bless us.
The Bible tells us: " Repent and be Born Again," God wants us to give up our Sin-Nature, and become loving and caring, plus the occasional hand.
God is Love and God wants loving sons and daughters. Jesus our Saviour will help and guide us, and we know that Satan and his followers will flee from
all Love and Compassion.
Let us all be of one Mind, Love God with all our beings, and love our neighbour as we love ourselves. Love is a Christian`s strong weapon, with love we can overcome all enmity and wrong behaviour. I say this with love, Bluelion.
Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

Emmy always a joy to read your words, and I agree. You always have a kind word, may kind words always find there way to you.

Some people are just harder to love. Does not stop me from trying though

 

[Bluelion]

Attaching a link and recommendation to watch a worldly video in a post condemning worldly things seems to be counterproductive.

Disclaimer: My response is directed at the content of the post and not the author of the post.

How is it worldly is it the tone? certainly not the words. I would like to see Bible verse that tell us what kind of music is ok for us to listen to? I would like to see the Bible verse which says the song is worldly?

 

[standingtall]

How is it worldly is it the tone? certainly not the words.

world·ly

adjective \&#712;w&#601;r(-&#601ld-l&#275;, &#712;w&#601;rl-l&#275;\ : of or relating to the human world and ordinary life rather than to religious or spiritual matters

Damian McBride and the real meaning of Foo Fighters' "Best of You"

Quote from the link:
"But at best, the point the lyrics are trying to make seems a bit muddy: at worst, they read remarkably like a screed of bile and resentment aimed at a former lover......"

Foo Fighters Lead Singer Explains meaning of "Best of You"

David Grohl's (lead singer of Foo Fighters) response:
" 'Best of You' is a song of resistance. It's about the refusal to be taken advantage of by something that's bigger than you, or someone you're in love with. It's the fight in the face of adversity," Grohl said. "I didn't really think of an interesting melody; I just wanted to scream the whole way through. And the first few times we rehearsed it, I thought, 'There's no way I'll be able to play this live. There's blood in my throat.' But now it's great, it's a release. When you go out and sing words from the heart, you scream twice as hard."

Yes, the song/video is "worldly" by the definition of the word.

 

[Bluelion]

world·ly

adjective \&#712;w&#601;r(-&#601ld-l&#275;, &#712;w&#601;rl-l&#275;\ : of or relating to the human world and ordinary life rather than to religious or spiritual matters

Damian McBride and the real meaning of Foo Fighters' "Best of You"

Quote from the link:
"But at best, the point the lyrics are trying to make seems a bit muddy: at worst, they read remarkably like a screed of bile and resentment aimed at a former lover......"

Foo Fighters Lead Singer Explains meaning of "Best of You"

David Grohl's (lead singer of Foo Fighters) response:
" 'Best of You' is a song of resistance. It's about the refusal to be taken advantage of by something that's bigger than you, or someone you're in love with. It's the fight in the face of adversity," Grohl said. "I didn't really think of an interesting melody; I just wanted to scream the whole way through. And the first few times we rehearsed it, I thought, 'There's no way I'll be able to play this live. There's blood in my throat.' But now it's great, it's a release. When you go out and sing words from the heart, you scream twice as hard."

Yes, the song/video is "worldly" by the definition of the word.

ahh but I am speak of internal worldly stuff not external. Why do you use a computer it is worldly, why do you watch tv it is worldly, but I am speaking Of spirit, and I think the spirit of the song is justice, about not being over come by evil but refusing to give in or conform to the world. That's what it means to me. I am speaking of the worldliness Jesus spoke of Not a definition in a human book.

I disagree, still wait for a bible verse?

 

[standingtall]

I disagree, still wait for a bible verse?

No bible verse is necessary. Worldly means worldly no matter where one gets the definition or how much the definition gets changed or twisted to fit a circumstance.

 

[Bluelion]

No bible verse is necessary. Worldly means worldly no matter where one gets the definition or how much the definition gets changed or twisted to fit a circumstance.

I'll take God's definition of it not the worlds thanks.

 

[Avid]

... I am speaking Of spirit, and I think the spirit of the song is justice, about not being over come by evil but refusing to give in or conform to the world...

So you are saying there is something in that song that exalts Christ, and puts forth the meaning of passages in scripture that warn us from conforming to the world?

Romans 12
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

I John 2
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
​

Chances are that it would not have ever gotten popular (another sign of being worldly,) and you would have never heard of it, if it was like this.

Luke 16
15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
​

Did you read any of my post except that part? I am not telling you these things because of ignorance, but I actually had thoughts of being a musician in rock music band as a youth. God moved things around so I didn't have the opportunities I sought, and eventually revealed how he had saved me from a rather miserable existence. It was part of Him saving my soul, and keeping me from destructive forces.

Be careful of defending the world and things of the world. I do not LOVE my computer, but it is a tool. I do not love my hammer, guitar, etc. but they are tools. If any of these breaks or is lost, I'll try to replace it so I can continue the work for which each is intended. If there is nothing I am actually working on with that tool, I may wait a while before replacing it.

Back in the early 1980s, I had studied the subject you seem to defend from a worldly point of view. I had actually talked to people who were children of missionaries to dark places in foreign continents. They told me of being confronted by the people who had recently converted, that asked about their ROCK MUSIC, and why they played the music of devils. The worshipers of devils recognized it immediately.

I'm not fooled, and it did not take long to get fed up with listening to that song. If you really think there is something spiritual in that song, show the line of lyrics with a Bible scripture that is supported or exalted by that.

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[Avid]

David Grohl's (lead singer of Foo Fighters) response:
" 'Best of You' is a song of resistance. It's about the refusal to be taken advantage of by something that's bigger than you, or someone you're in love with. It's the fight in the face of adversity," Grohl said...' "

Seems that the singer has a different thought about the meaning of the song. There is nothing in his comments that indicates the song is about refusing to conform to the world, but that EGO is going to make a stand against something that would dominate it - a very worldly stance.
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[Bluelion]

Well this post was not about the song at all but some people have made it about the song. Like I said there are people who find one thing to attack ignore all the other content and go off and attack that one thing with out every addressing the rest, sorry but it was a good message and true, maybe that is why Jesus said let him with ears hear because so many people don't listen.

Here is something from the Bible be fast to listen and slow to speak, James.

I'll address the song and then I am moving back to topic.

People calling rock music the devil is the main reason people make fun of Christians. Its a joke anytime some thing different comes it is attack. Jesus was attack too because He ate and drank Holy men did not do that in Jesus day they fasted. So they call Jesus the devil because they did not understand. Jesus said and if the light you have is actually darkness how deep that darkness is. Christians have there own network which is more corrupt than Hollywood. Its a joke.

Lets explain art sense people do not understand it. When i was in college English we read each poem 3 times. The first time we read it we wrote what it meant to us, second we wrote what we thought it meant in general, third we wrote what we though the author meant. The point is what matters first is what the art means to you.

The great artist make people feel something, its not what the artist meant, it is to him, but great art is one where everyone gets there own meaning from. What it means to me may be different than what it means to the person standing next to me. It makes a person think for them self instead of excepting what people tell them, and that is why art is dangerous, because people who think for them self are hard to control.

There was a leader who collected art and burned it, he put bans on music and film to reflect only what he approved. He was on a crusade to destroy all art that inspired people.
The mans name was Hitler the anit christ. So before you go calling it art worldly your ideas are not new and are the same as anit christ. Art is not worldly, fame, money these things are, but art is something much more, it is free expression. Free expression is not worldly. Look at how artist are treat. Robin williams killed him self, if the life of the artist is so great why are they not loving the world, why are they always tortured souls.

The christian cult idea that rock music is of the devil is just that a cult idea. I don't follow cults, I follow Jesus.

so lets do a run down of what I think when i hear the words, sense you would not watch the video with lyrics.

I've got another confession to make
I'm your foolthis line i think I have played the fool letting people get to me, and chasing after colorful things
Everyone's got their chains to break
Holdin' youThis I relate to with chains of addiction, chains of this world, chains other people put on me, I need to break them and Live by God

Were you born to resist or be abused?reminds me to make a choice resist this world, or allow my self to be abused by the world. this is different than suffering for God.
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?reminds me not to let people get to me.

Are you gone and onto someone new?Am I going to be what God wants me to be or live in the shell of my dead old self
I needed somewhere to hang my head
Without your nooseI need to get away from judgmental Christians who do nothing put pass judgement and get back to loving.
You gave me something that I didn't haveJesus gave me love that is what I didn't have
But had no usebut i ran from it
I was too weak to give inoften i would not stand for abuse even though God wanted me to walk away i would just knock the person out, take justice into my own hands.
Too strong to loseJesus has made me strong, the war was won at the Cross
My heart is under arrest againI fight between taking Justice out on people and just loving them as God loves me
But I break looseGod set me free brings me back to Love
My head is giving me life or deathchoice between this world death and living God's way, Life.
But I can't choosesome times the two are hard to chose between.
I swear I'll never give in
I refuseI will not stop fighting to become what God wants me to be.

Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?Reminds me don't let people get to me.
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Has someone taken your faith?Many Christians make me almost want to lose faith with How cruel and unloving the are, reminds me not to give in
Its real, the pain you feelmy feelings are vaild
You trust, you mustTrust God, I have no choice
Confessconfess Jesus is my King
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?reminds me don't let people get to me.
Oh...

Oh...Oh...Oh...Oh...

Has someone taken your faith?repeat
Its real, the pain you feel
The life, the love you'd die to healJesus gave His life to Heal me, count me as righteous and heal my broken heart.
The hope that starts the broken heartssame
You trust, you musttrust God confess Jesus
Confess

Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?repeat
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?

I've got another confession my friend
I'm no foolI am not going to be the worlds fool
I'm getting tired of starting againI am getting tried of fleeing to the next town, one day the children of God will stop running and God we in act justice
Somewhere new

Were you born to resist or be abused?repeat
I swear I'll never give inI won't stop fighting, i will over come with God.
I refuse

Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?repeat all the way down
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Has someone taken your faith?
Its real, the pain you feel
You trust, you must
Confess
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Oh...


So there is what the song means to me when I listen to it, thing about art is it is what you make it. I dare you to say my meanings are not Biblical.

There Have I justified my self to every one? Have you had your fill of playing Judge, closing your ears and not trying to understand. So is that how you love your self?

 

[twin1954]

You are the one who made it about the song. My comment about the song was a joke. Hence the wink smiley. You took it as serious and then turned the topic to the song. I didn't listen to the song because I just didn't want to, it had nothing to do with worldliness. I had no interest in the song.

I find it difficult to take you seriously now. You call me judgmental and worldly and then give Bible verses that have nothing to do with what you are saying or twist their meaning in some strange way that obviously fits your mind but no one else's. Have you actually studied hermeneutics?

So to answer your question in the topic. All the people of God are of one mind. They all know Christ as He is revealed in the Scriptures. They all rest in Him alone and not in anything that they do. They all seek His honor and gory. They all follow Him in the tenor of their lives and they all worship Him not their will.

 

[Bluelion]

back to topic, So taking a course on Acts. Just did a report on chapters 1 and 2 and the thing that struck me is the one mind text.

Acts 1NASB

13 When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and [m]James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, [n]James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the [o]son of [p]James. 14 These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.

this text in chapter 1 it says of one mind, what does it say about them they were in prayer, the picture it paints is of a family, but modern church is not a family. I have heard people say well family fight, really because Jesus family does not I did not see any fighting when Jesus was with the 12. and Here in acts it certainly does not seem they are fighting, but paints the picture they are all in agreement. That is one mind. WHy don't we have this? because we don't keep the greatest commandment, we don't approach each other with Love. We do not listen first and slow to speak, as written in James.

Peter stand up and gives a speech, notice no one objects, or debates it, but they all understand, That is one mind.

Chapter 2
They receive The Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:42 NASB

It speaks of the one mind what it looks like.

42 They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles&#8217; teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and [ao]to prayer.

43 [ap]Everyone kept feeling a sense of awe; and many wonders and [aq]signs were taking place through the apostles. 44 And all those who had believed [ar]were together and had all things in common; 45 and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. 46 Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread [as]from house to house, they were taking their [at]meals together with gladness and [au]sincerity of heart, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding [av]to their number day by day those who were being saved.

That is what the One Mind looks like, pats in bold and red Sincerity of heart, I think many so called Christians lack this.

So many people like to tell each other you are wrong about this or that, but what do they agree with, they lack the sincerity of heart.