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Hello to all. I have a difficult problem that I do not know what to do about. I hope I can get some advice.

My boyfriend and I moved in together 5 months ago. We both made the decision to move in together to be closer together and we moved close to my job. We both new it was wrong to live in sin. When we both acknowledge how we both couldn’t read the bible or feel like going to church, I then lost my job. He was going to move out back into low income housing with his 4yr old daughter, but found out he was unable to since he had a felony. Even though he lived there before, he fell through a loophole when he moved there, somehow passing in the system. I have been searching for another job, but unable to find one. My family has really pulled through to help us. I have sold a lot of my valuables at yard sales to just support us. Being that I’m not materialistic, I do not miss them that much anyways. His job is only part time and he works extra odd jobs. We get food stamps and Wic and very grateful for it. I am hoping for a job soon.

Even though we didn’t have the money and he had just found out how the low income housing wont let him in, I went and researched a lower about expungement. He was very hopeless about it and said it would cost money. He even tried to research it up on the internet but found no hope. I kept telling him to have hope and he wouldn’t. Till I found a lawyer and for $250 and some paperwork it is still in the process right now. We wont know an answer for a while. So, please also put this in your prayers it will go through.

But this is my problem:

Because of our hard times, he feels like God was punishing us for sinning. The he posted on another board about his feelings. Someone said about how God chastises those he loves. He wants to move out, but we don’t have money for rent alone, yet he cant get into low income housing with his felony. He could move into his grandparents, but there is no room and they are old so it would be hard on them as well as they have their own financial problems. Since I lost my job, we sleep in the same bed but don’t have sex. No Joke.

He wanted to go back to church and I said finally. I tried to get him to go before, but he would make excuses about it. Now he wants to go. So we are going this weekend. We are both praying together too.

But this is what I don’t understand. He feels that us living together is still wrong. He is hesitant about Marriage since his trust was taken from a previous relationship. He said he is waiting till he feels like he can fully trust me. He said a year ago ( he holds out his hands about three feet) and says this was where he was on trusting me. He said now (he holds out his hands about one foot) and says where he is now. He has an engagement ring, but I don’t know what he is waiting for. I suggested that one of us could sleep in the living room and take turns and he said he didn’t like sleeping on the couch. He reassures me that he is not leading me on. I asked him if his Expungement came through and if he wanted to move out? Even though he tells me it wont be too long before we get married, would he want to move out? He said yes he would. I said that doesn’t make sense to move out when in a few months we would be together again. What about the confusion it would create for his daughter. About 7 months ago we broke up for at least one month. I took weeks trying to get that trust back with her. She was always afraid I would be leaving her.

I am asking for support. I cant see his reasoning and I’m frustrated cause we have been together 2.5 years.

I sometimes think I shouldn’t wait any longer and just move on. He doesn’t talk about marriage all that much and we aren’t even engaged. I have mothered his daughter and took care of her and he knows I’m a good person.

I asked him if he thought maybe God pushed us together for a reason to see our strength together or maybe something else, since all the other doors were closed on him. He said no. God condones sin and he would not have been in favor of us moving in together.

So, I ask for advice. I am very confused and frustrated. Any advice would be helpful..

Anything I can tell him would be helpful….



Thank you brothers and sisters
Sillycat2112
 

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It's pretty simple, if you start with square one - what God wants you to do.

Here's some verses about avoiding the appearance of evil (in your case, living in the same place).
1. Rom. 14:23 But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. (NIV)

2. God cautions against doing things that could appear to be evil to others, in case we might cause them to stumble. Here, for example, are passages about eating certain things:
1 Cor 8:9-13 Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what has been sacrificed to idols? 11 So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall. (NIV)


Rom 14:19-22 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall. 22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves.

If you want help, guidance, and fellowship with God, then moving apart is a definite step to take. I know it would be hard, and there are many stumbling blocks. But God will make a way of escape for you. (a way out of and around the problem).

Good for the both of you - seeking Christian advice. God bless you both. Aloha in Jesus
 
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You are frustrated because you both strayed from God, yet wonder whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy you are having such a tough time.:scratch: You both WILLFULLY moved into together KNOWING THAT YOU WOULD BE SINNING and now seem shocked that you lost your job. :sigh: Your words also seem to imply that had you not lost your job, you would have continued having premarital relations with absolutely no thought to Divine repercussions:confused: God's chastising you both is His great love to protect you! If He let you keep willingly enjoying living in sin, the more apathetic you would get toward more sin and barred from His favor.

You are still sleeping in the same bed=sleeping with temptation, hence your frustration and not getting what you want...a marriage proposal. Your boyfriend wanting to move out is God's righteousness...fleeing from temptation!

Let God's Word be a lamp unto your feet, a light unto your path...

Galatians 5:13, 16-17, 24 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh...I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish...And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

Galatians 6:7-8 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-8 It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit.

2 Timothy 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

James 1:13-15 When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

Do read Hebrews 12 about God's loving discipline. Get right with God and do right by Him, then you will know what His Will is for you. :prayer: His grace is sufficient for you in terms of keeping up a relationship with your bf's daughter.

Matthew 6:33 But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

Romans 12:1-2 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. :D
 
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I know this may go against some of the advice you already have, but please consider:
God has forgiven all your sin, He is not punishing you for any wrong you have done or are doing; that would suggest that the price Jesus paid was not sufficient for all sin.
The fact of the matter of things going wrong for both of you is not punishment, but lack.
Do you turn on the shower and stand in the middle of the bathroom hoping to get wet? No! of course not! You stand under the shower.
It is similar with God's blessing; He has said do this and I will bless you, do this and you will miss the blessings. You are in the wrong place to receive the blessings of God.
Get yourself into the right relationship with Him, and be where the blessings are.
I hope this helps you some.
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Macca,

Your reasoning is erroneous! For the record, Jesus' great sacrifice was indeed sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world! HOWEVER, as easily seen in this rebellious world, sin most certainly reaps consequences! One commits a crime, goes to jail, becomes a Christian while in prison...do they get out of jail because they asked for forgiveness? You should read carefully the verses posted above!
 
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HumbleBee said:
Macca,

Your reasoning is erroneous! For the record, Jesus' great sacrifice was indeed sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world! HOWEVER, as easily seen in this rebellious world, sin most certainly reaps consequences! One commits a crime, goes to jail, becomes a Christian while in prison...do they get out of jail because they asked for forgiveness? You should read carefully the verses posted above!

Fortunately for us all Macca is right. There are some wrong choices in here, but none of them cuts the couple off from God. The speck and the plank are relevant to us all.

Jesus asked a question about some people who were killed when a building fell on them. He specifically said that it was not a judgement of God.
Luke 13:4 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them — do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem?

Get back into a relationship with God. He will confront you about your relationship at some stage, but most of all He wants to be bale to show His love for you.

John
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HumbleBee said:
Macca,

Your reasoning is erroneous! For the record, Jesus' great sacrifice was indeed sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world! HOWEVER, as easily seen in this rebellious world, sin most certainly reaps consequences! One commits a crime, goes to jail, becomes a Christian while in prison...do they get out of jail because they asked for forgiveness? You should read carefully the verses posted above!
With respect, you are confusing sowing and reaping with punishment from God.
You definitely reap what you sow in this world, but all sin has been paid for by Jesus
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Tough situation.

Obviously it was a mistake to move in together. It is still a mistake to live together and you should move out or he should move out. If you can't pay rent seperately then something has to happen.

BTW...why don't you get married? That would solve the problem of living in sin?

I honestly don't know if your hard times are God's punishment. Connecting the hard times to your living together is not necessarily good reasoning. But it is easy for us to do that. God does forgive, but his forgiveness is not a license to continue in the sin.

You haven't talked much about the 4 year old. Is this child with your husband full time? Where is the childs mother?
 
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Hewwo people?

Nowhere in my posts have I mentioned the word punishment. Big difference between punishment and God's loving discipline that I did emphasize! He disciplines out of His mercy to keep people from falling into deeper sin! Yes with Jesus there is forgiveness, however as I have said sinning still does have consequences! Even sillycat sees that, tho seemed shocked!?! Without repercussions, enter in greasy grace...willfully sinning, then asking forgiveness! :eek:

Noted that sillycat and bf were having tough times (experiencing 'life') before they moved in together, so obviously that decision made things even worse.

Shaking the dust.........................
 
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