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Hi all.
I have a relationship issue. I am recently divorced (finalized in April) and he is single (never been married). We were also in a long distance relationship and live 400 miles apart in different states.

So that and the fact that we met online make things difficult. The worst part is that we met and started talking a few months before i had the money saved up to actually file for divorce from my husband that i never had feelings for at all (we were only married because we were high school sweethearts- each other's first everything- and we were just comfortable and thought it was the next step in life - We divorced when i miscarried and was told i cannot have children - he now is in a relationship with someone else and is taking care of her two kids).

We did meet and sleep together before the divorce was filed once and again after my ex moved out and we were just waiting on the divorce papers to be finalized (in my state you are required to wait 60 days) Well. We've been together a year now and i would like to be Facebook friends and get to know his siblings and parents because things are getting serious. Like very serious. we're deeply in love and i can't imagine life without him. He is a very good Christian man and came from a very strict religious household. I was raised Christian too, but had been away from the church for about 12 years (This man actually talked me into going back and im happy to say i love my new Church family and was Baptized on 9/8/13!!)

The problem is, he is TERRIFIED to tell anyone about me at all. No one knows he even has a girlfriend and its been a whole year. I understand he couldn't tell anyone while i was still married, but now that we're both single, he still won't. His fear is that his very religious parents will judge us too harshly for the way we met (online and had an affair) and will force us to break up.

Now I posted this same question a while back, but we've made some changes and I wanted to see what ya'll thought since I really do get some great insight here.

We decided to break up. It wasn't right continuing in the sin that our relationship began in. Of course im broken to peices inside, and he's not too thrilled either, but we both came to be convicted because we knew biblically we shouldn't be together. But problem is, I still love him. So soo much. We don't really want to lose each other. Do you guys think that since we've repented, asked forgiveness, broken up, ceased contact for now, that will show his parents and everyone that we're on a good path spiritually and that maybe one day we would be ok in the general public, but most importantly God's eyes to get back together? I can't imagine having a family with anyone but him. He brought me back to God and he's the most wonderful man i know, we just didn't have the patience to wait for my divorce to start our relationship the first time and now are paying for that. any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks all and I hope you have a beautiful day
 

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Thank you. I have talked to my pastor, but he is too scared to talk to his. Once word gets out that he has committed adultery, they will treat him like a second class citizen and take away his position in his church (he helps with some things) they will say that since he sinned they cannot trust him.

Its not really that he is being mysterious.. he knows he HAS to tell people someday if we have ANY chance of being together ever, he just can't get over his fear and guilt and shame, which is why we broke up. I don't think there are any "red flags" or secrets or anything. I trust him wholeheartedly, I just can't make him confess what he's too scared of telling. and part of confessing and changing is cutting ties with the affiar partner and never repeating that sin. But after we are apart for a while would it be acceptable to get back together and start a new relationship based in Christ instead of a horrible affair? Or does the way we met the first time alway trump everything even though we're making the effort to change??
 
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My honest opinion: You just got divorced. And if I'm understanding the timeline correctly : you miscarried, divorced, had an affair , and have dealt with this relationship all within 2 years? That's a lot to handle.......You need to be alone for a while and fully heal, seek after God not only because you want this relationship with this man, but for your own self. In what you have posted here, he doesn't sound like a great Christian man to me....he kinda has you on the side and can live another life without you in it and is okay with that. If it were me; I'd want someone to tell me to find a counselor, deal with myself and my baggage, work on myself and my relationship with God, and get away from this guy. If God brings you back together, then it will happen. If He doesn't, then you will be a better you for a better man.

Also the whole thing about his parents is weird......You make it sound like you have to get permission from them to date him......If that is the case; run. If you two were to marry, would his parents be controlling things in your marriage also? I say unless he is willing to stand up for you and be proud of you and be proud of having you in his life; then it's not that much of a relationship and won't translate well to marriage. It sounds as if he is thoroughly embaressed of you and him together and you deserve better than that.
 
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You have to make sure you have healed from this most recent trauma. To rebound to another person to fill heart's void is fraught with danger.

Let's say you're thinking straight. You do not HAVE to confess to anybody;that's unscriptural if you do. When you ask the Lord to forgive you it is under the blood,forgive each other and walk on with your heads held high. If people ask a mere"We've had our struggles but are living in victory" should suffice. Let it be your mantra together and DON'T let anyone pry in to condemn you.

Now this assumes you ARE living in victory. Explore the world together,see if God confirms your choice, and don't be slow to marry for satan will surely be working to trip you up. Seek His blessing for this will be tough. Good luck.
 
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What I meant is that I was raised Nazarene when I was a child but stopped going to church about 14 years ago. After I met this man he testified his story of how he was saved and I shortly thereafter came to Christ and got saved. Thats what I meant. Sorry to confuse anyone.

So heaven being a free gift by trusting God Jesus is fairly new for you. Is that sortof what you mean by being saved?

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Ya, I still don't like how he is afraid of his parents and church. He is so guilty over having sex that I don't see even starting over correcting that problem.

It's not having sex he's guilty over. It was having sex with a married women, which last time we checked, was a pretty heavy offense...
 
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Yes, technically is was adultery. In Bible times the husband wrote a certificate of divorcement that stated, "You are free to marry any man you want." and it was complete. Today it takes months to go thru the process instead of 15 mins. So he is an adultery with close to 30% (Or some other large number) of the other Christians in the world. Its a sin like a million other sins. Don't do it again and put that sin behind like every other sin he has committed in his life.

Sorry ... I just really don't like all the guilty the church puts on people when we all are guilty of so many other sins. Most "sexual sins" don't hurt people that much in my view, its the guilt that the church and society puts on people that causes the most harm from how I look at these things. So this is one of my triggers.
 
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OK so you don't show your age and I don't think you have shared your's or his age only that he has never been married.

IMO, one sin is not above or worse than another sin in God's eyes. They are all equal.

There ARE red flags and you don't seem to want to address them. The fact that this guy cannot hold his head up and say YES I made a mistake and I sinned, AND I have repented for my sins IS a huge red flag. It just is. Another red flag is how overly concerned he is about appearances for fear of his parents and/or the church taking away his position. Claiming to be something that you are not, especially IN the church is what caused Annanias and Saphira to drop dead! A person that is truly repentant would not care who knows because they know they have changed their ways and they know they are forgiven and that is a testimony. We ALL sin. He is not being real and you are sucked in by emotion. It's understandable, but you have to take off your rose colored glasses and face the truth. ANY time someone does not want to acknowledge that they are in a relationship with you....that IS a secret and it is not right or fair to you.
In your belief system, what you did with each other while being married was wrong. We get that. You and supposedly he, has repented and asked God to forgive you. It is done. So he really has no excuse and if he continues to hide this "sin" of his he will be a hypocrite and God does not like hypocrites in the church, just ask Annanias and Saphira.
 
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Well, how blunt is that! I agree, Michelle, and its been this way for months with no progress on his part. So he would rather keep up appearances than deal with the issue so he have the one he "loves!" What's up with that?
 
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Well, how blunt is that! I agree, Michelle, and its been this way for months with no progress on his part. So he would rather keep up appearances than deal with the issue so he have the one he "loves!" What's up with that?

I know, I'm so sorry, I have no filter sometimes, but I mean well. I don't think they will drop dead in church, but it IS important to be real especially if you are serving in some leadership capacity. That's why I never want to be in that position in a church.
 
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I'd not have a problem with being in church leadership if they accept me for who I am. I'm working on being more authentic, so more people are getting to know the real me ... So far its rather amazing how people have accepted me for who I am. I've just had 3 more woman who want to meet me for coffee or a workshop. Just the opposite of what this guys is expressing/fearing.
 
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In law here and I guess maybe where you are, the point of separation is what matters, the divorce is just a legal recognition of that.

If he abandoned you and left, and the next day you won the lottery, then in this country because he made no contribution in anyway to what you did, then all the money would be yours. And the divorce may take a while so it is a division of assets at the time of separation.

And if one partner after separation blows a load of money that doesn't reduce the other partner's part of the assets because that is at the time of separation. Only getting legally married whilst married to another is legally problematic (but it happened to Pres. Jackson's wife).

So I really wouldn't worry about that.



I would however be careful to note each and every time you break the speed limit, and by how much, and give the list to your pastor, because that is a deliberate sin you could easily avoid and it endangers other people. Your significant other should do the same.
 
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