What are you people thinking?

[barnarp]

Hi, I am new hear, in fact this is my first post. I came to the music section of this forum to get some guidance and opinions of bands/music that should rather be avoided by children of God.

I went through some of the threads, and man, most people on here are pretty misguided and even blatantly coy about bands they listen to and bands that are "ok" to listen to. If I didn't look up a few times to see that I am actually on christianforums.com, I would not have believed it. Is this site and its people for real?

People condoning and listening to bands like Metallica,Slayer,ACDC,Iron Maiden,Venom etc, and thinking it's OK???

Saying things like OH, they just PRETEND to be satanic, their doing it for sensasionalism, or OH, the only have a few blaspemous songs, nothing to worry about, or OH they just have evil lyric, the music is really OK.

What are you people thinking?? YOU ARE OPENING A DOOR if you continue to listen to this. Burn it, get rid of it. Do you really things Jesus would like you to listen to Sisters of Mercy or Megadeth or Black Sabbath?

Come on, or am I missing something? Please tell me?

Having said that, where could I find a site were people have done some research into good/evil secular bands/music?

 

[Bellicus]

I'm not a big fan of heavy metal, simply because I don't like the genre. But sometimes I enjoy some songs of Black Sabbath/Ozzy Osborne, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper,The Doors and Pink Floyd. Those from the late 60's, early 70's usually are my favorites. And I don't enjoy it because I consider it be a sin, but because it sounds nice, and that is all. It is not like I feel like bowing down and worship the devil because of it. And I don't feel like trading away God with music. So what could I be doing wrong about it?

If you feel like it is wrong to listen to music like that, I would recommend that you don't listen to it, but instead listen to something that feels OK for you to listen to. But don't make yourself a judge above those that do listen to certain kinds of music, I can't see how this will bring anything good for you or for those you judge. Instead of making yourself upset about those that seem to like this kind of music, you can look for others that like your kind of music.

I came to the music section of this forum to get some guidance and opinions of bands/music that should rather be avoided by children of God.

There are no such thing as music we can't listen to. We are called to freedom, not a set of rules we have to follow. What benefits the most is songs of praise and hymns to God, when it comes to music that is just music then you should choose something that builds you up in a good way. If you feel some kinds of music is wrong for you, you should avoid those kinds of music. I think this is often individual, so you should follow your hearth, and listen to you conscience.

Hope you will stick around on the forums, there are other things to talk about here then music too

 

[LoisGriffin]

Ah those are some excellent and classic bands you named there. Great choice in music!

 

[Bellicus]

Here's a example of Judas Priest. The name of the band sounds like something really non-christian, and the vocal is a homosexual guy that uses black leather on stage and I really doubt that he is a Christian:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dDBlmLEX-0I

But what he is singing about really don't give me anything bad. He is singing things like: "Why do I have to wait so long before you get into my life again", "Turn on your light - let me see it shine trough the night", "Let me hear your voice". And probably it is a love song of the rock genre, but when I listen to it, it makes me feel that it is someone singing about how he longs for God - that he don't really know it himself, but that is what is really behind his words.

So my point: This is individual. If someone listen to this because they feel it is wrong and something that draw them away from God, then for sure it is wrong for them to listen to it.

 

[peanutbutter12]

Hi, I am new hear, in fact this is my first post. I came to the music section of this forum to get some guidance and opinions of bands/music that should rather be avoided by children of God.

There is no such thing as "bands that should be avoided by Christians". It's personal, it's what effects your own walk. Something that is not good for you may not be the same thing that isn't good for me.

I went through some of the threads, and man, most people on here are pretty misguided and even blatantly coy about bands they listen to and bands that are "ok" to listen to. If I didn't look up a few times to see that I am actually on christianforums.com, I would not have believed it. Is this site and its people for real?

A: This is a mixed forum. There are other people here than just Christians. You don't just kick out people who don't hold the same faith as you, otherwise, what would Christianity be?

B: Maybe you're the one who is misguided. For instance, I am a fan of Marilyn Manson. However, I'm sure you would blatantly attack Manson and probably have never even read his lyrics or begun to understand the deeper meaning behind some of the symbolism he uses in his music.

People condoning and listening to bands like Metallica,Slayer,ACDC,Iron Maiden,Venom etc, and thinking it's OK???

Why wouldn't it be if it doesn't take them away from Christ? Maybe they just like it. Ever think of that?

Saying things like OH, they just PRETEND to be satanic, their doing it for sensasionalism, or OH, the only have a few blaspemous songs, nothing to worry about, or OH they just have evil lyric, the music is really OK.

I'll take that as a grotesque exaggeration of the reality. As I stated above, what is bad for one person is not bad for all people. If you don't like these bands, there is a Christian Music Only section you should visit.

What are you people thinking?? YOU ARE OPENING A DOOR if you continue to listen to this. Burn it, get rid of it. Do you really things Jesus would like you to listen to Sisters of Mercy or Megadeth or Black Sabbath

I rest my case on your complete ignorance. Read my above responses. By the way, you might find it interesting that the singer for Megadeath is a Christian. But please, go back to being ignorant. It's never ending amusement for me.

Come on, or am I missing something? Please tell me?

Having said that, where could I find a site were people have done some research into good/evil secular bands/music?

Yep, you're missing something called a "clue". Hopefully we here can help you get one. Welcome.

 

[barnarp]

Thanks for SOME of your helpful comments guys. I still cannot understand how someone can listen to Manson and be a child of God. How can you want to listen to someones music who said that he want to be remembered as the one who killed Chritianity? Come on.

 

[barnarp]

Thanks for SOME of your helpful comments guys. I still cannot understand how someone can listen to Manson and be a child of God. How can you want to listen to someones music who said that he want to be remembered as the one who killed Chritianity? Come on.

 

[peanutbutter12]

Thanks for SOME of your helpful comments guys. I still cannot understand how someone can listen to Manson and be a child of God. How can you want to listen to someones music who said that he want to be remembered as the one who killed Chritianity? Come on.

He didn't kill Christianity, if anything, his lyrics had me think about the decisions I've made and come to real conclusions about why I made them rather than blindly following because it's the "in thing to do". In any event, I love industrial and synthed up music.

"I never really hated a one true God, but the God of the people I hated." - Manson, Disposable Teens

 

[pwsoldier]

As others have mentioned, non-Christians are welcome in this forum. And yes, 99% of metal bands are just smoke and mirrors when it comes to their religious themes. Granted, I'm an atheist, so I don't consider any type of music to be "evil" (well, maybe country).

This forum is about discussing and sharing secular music, not for discussing whether or not such-and-such band is satanic or ungodly. There's a stickied announcment at the top of this forum that states exactly that. If you don't like the music your fellow Christians are listening to, keep it to yourself. No one needs to justify their music tastes to anyone in here.

 

[nhislove]

Hi, I am new hear, in fact this is my first post. I came to the music section of this forum to get some guidance and opinions of bands/music that should rather be avoided by children of God.

I went through some of the threads, and man, most people on here are pretty misguided and even blatantly coy about bands they listen to and bands that are "ok" to listen to. If I didn't look up a few times to see that I am actually on christianforums.com, I would not have believed it. Is this site and its people for real?

People condoning and listening to bands like Metallica,Slayer,ACDC,Iron Maiden,Venom etc, and thinking it's OK???

Saying things like OH, they just PRETEND to be satanic, their doing it for sensasionalism, or OH, the only have a few blaspemous songs, nothing to worry about, or OH they just have evil lyric, the music is really OK.

What are you people thinking?? YOU ARE OPENING A DOOR if you continue to listen to this. Burn it, get rid of it. Do you really things Jesus would like you to listen to Sisters of Mercy or Megadeth or Black Sabbath?

Come on, or am I missing something? Please tell me?

Having said that, where could I find a site were people have done some research into good/evil secular bands/music?

I agree...allm they need to do is get a copy of the lyrics, read and see what God tells them.

 

[Tallerthanatree]

Take your ill-informed trolling somewhere else. Threads like these are against forum rules.

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=1232393

 

[Trashionista]

I'm thinking it's all just entertainment.

 

[SAPguy]

There is a reason this forum is called 'Secular Music' and there is another forum for 'Christian Music'. What did you expect to find in something called Secular Music?

 

[Wrexscar]

Hi, I am new hear, in fact this is my first post. I came to the music section of this forum to get some guidance and opinions of bands/music that should rather be avoided by children of God.

I would suggest the christian advice section of the forum would be the place to ask this question. This is an open forum and the rules of this place prohibit the type of behaviour in the rest of your post.

 

[white dove]

I realize this is probably a "troll" type situaton, but this happens often enough where a Stickied Thread might suffice for these kinds of questions.


Here is a post from a different thread where I answered similar (thought not quite as insulting) questions concerning the same ideology.

One of my favorite bands is Linkin Park (HUSH, don't judge me! ) -- to me, the music is very spiritual and has a lot more depth to it than you'd imagine. I don't consider listening to music or going to concerts as a step back in my spiritual life because the music fuels my spirit -- the question is, what is it filling my spirit with? I "reconcile" the lyrics to my spiritual walk because, at times, I'm angry. At times, I'm confused. At other times, I'm complacent... boisterous, silly, happy, filled with tremendous love, etc.. I don't often find these varying themes in mainstream Christian music (which is why I posted a thread to ask about any new bands or artists I may not have heard of before). Secular music speaks more honestly. To me, secular artists aren't afraid to "let it all out there" and be real. Yeah, you can get a lot of crap if you're not choosey, but use discernment. (It's one of the fruits of the Spirit) Don't just go out there and buy a satan RULES ARRRRRRR!! album if you think it might not speak to where you're at (please don't let it be where you're at).


I don't look to what every single musical artist I listen to does with their downtime, either. We all have things we need to work on, anyway -- we all have our own vices. Even Christian artists I might listen to, I don't focus too much on what they do, say, in their bedrooms or whatnot because what matters to me and my soul is whether or not the music and its lyrics encourages my walk with Christ or nourishes my soul. Does Led Zepplin encourage you in your walk in some way? Does it speak to where you are? Cool. I won't judge you then.


Music is art... and I can appreciate it without having to appreciate the artist. Dali's work is amazing, in some cases... but Dali was a moron. It's just all how you look at things, I guess.

 

[Mr.Cheese]

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[aezliabeth]

Music to me is just music and saying someone is less christian because of what they listen to isn't really anyone's place to say but God's.

 

[SparkyMaddie]

rock on

 

[Audiomatic]

I grew up loving music by Black Sabath, Judas Priest, The Doors, Hendrix, Santana, Zeppelin, etc. It's a lot of fun to play along with on my guitar. I didn't become a Christian 'til my late 30s, and I turned out O.K. (I think?). Because this style of music is so popular, Christian bands are following suit which I think is great! Now I can play guitar to rockin' Christian songs, which I much prefer because I know the motivation behind them.

Some people think songs by Mark Farner (lead singer and guitarist for Grand Funk) and Rick Derringer (Rock & Roll Hootchie Koo) are evil, but they're doing Christian songs now. Check it out! I guess they turned out O.K.?

 

[Dasein]

I think that judging all music as evil or corrupting that can broadly be categorized as rock or metal is quite an unnecessarily close-minded thing to do.
I can understand your concern, but half of the people posting about possible anti-religious bands in this forum will not be Christians themselves, and the other half clearly will just avoid bands they recommend.

The important thing is not to let the mere sound of the band change your opinion; even the very heaviest genres have Christian bands

That being said I think it's equally as irresponsible to claim that no music can be corrupting. There are a lot of anti-religious or anti-Christian bands out there, and a lot with lyrics and themes not befitting of someone who is supposedly following God.

That being said, having a "Christian" member doesn't make the band fine for Christians, just like sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken.
It's no argument to say 'such-and-such-a-band can't be bad for Christians to listen to because they have a Christian member'.
Point of evidence: Tom Araya from Slayer is a Catholic, as is Ralph Santolla from Deicide, one of the most anti-Christian bands in the world.



If you wish to have answers about acceptable and unacceptable bands then start a thread about it instead of borderline-trolling the Secular Music sub-forum.
That being said, if you wish to know of metal and rock that is either pro or anti Christian (or neutral) then send me a PM and I'll knock up a list for you.