What are you doing to survive the Trump presidency?

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Personally I'm not changing a thing about my life, and Trump has done nothing to change it either, as far as I can tell.

That would be the case for the majority of our presidents, no matter how good or bad they are at the job.

For myself, I am mostly enjoying the entertainment value of it all.
 
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Change holiday plan. Was going visit USA. But watch Trump rallies on TV and hear Trump statements at speech and Trump be elected. Not want to have problem so change holiday to Canada.
 
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What do you guys think if ... Hypothetically ... I didn't vote in the last presidential election? I'd hate to admit to anything that might get me stoned in here so this is, of course, purely hypothetical. One possible reality of many...

Did you vote?
 
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What do you guys think if ... Hypothetically ... I didn't vote in the last presidential election? I'd hate to admit to anything that might get me stoned in here so this is, of course, purely hypothetical. One possible reality of many...

Did you vote?

I almost didn't vote as well. I ended up voting for neither Trump or Clinton and wrote someone in.
 
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I wrote in Kasich. IMO, the most qualified and level headed candidate that was available, by far.

I hope he runs next time. Of course he has some serious problems in Ohio to deal with first.
 
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Since Almighty YHWH puts whoever He wants in leadership positions, I would be careful to speak of "surviving" Trump's presidency. In reality, you are suggesting we are surviving YHWH's choice. The best thing we could all do is to pray for Trump that YHWH will direct his heart to do His will.
 
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Since Almighty YHWH puts whoever He wants in leadership positions, I would be careful to speak of "surviving" Trump's presidency. In reality, you are suggesting we are surviving YHWH's choice. The best thing we could all do is to pray for Trump that YHWH will direct his heart to do His will.

And how exactly do you go about measuring whether Trump is doing God's will? Would it have anything to do with you agreeing with what Trump does?
 
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Since Almighty YHWH puts whoever He wants in leadership positions, I would be careful to speak of "surviving" Trump's presidency. In reality, you are suggesting we are surviving YHWH's choice. The best thing we could all do is to pray for Trump that YHWH will direct his heart to do His will.

That reminds me of the big conversion of Rome back when .... whoever that was .... saw the cross in the sky and said an angel told him to conquer in the name of the Christian God
 
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Since Almighty YHWH puts whoever He wants in leadership positions, I would be careful to speak of "surviving" Trump's presidency. In reality, you are suggesting we are surviving YHWH's choice. The best thing we could all do is to pray for Trump that YHWH will direct his heart to do His will.

Evangelicals flocked to Trump. Trump literally lived in a golden palace, he seems dedicated solely to Mammon. He is an adulterer. He preaches NOT turning the other cheek. He preaches fear of outsiders.

I can't imagine a less Christ-like set of behaviors and yet, the evangelicals flocked to him.

So is God really putting Trump in charge? Or are evangelicals taking it upon themselves to choose to elevate things which they excoriate in others?
 
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What do you guys think if ... Hypothetically ... I didn't vote in the last presidential election? I'd hate to admit to anything that might get me stoned in here so this is, of course, purely hypothetical. One possible reality of many...

Did you vote?
Yes, I voted and personally feel that those who did not and COULD have have no right to complain about the results. I am not saying that you are only that I feel it is that important to vote.
 
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That reminds me of the big conversion of Rome back when .... whoever that was .... saw the cross in the sky and said an angel told him to conquer in the name of the Christian God

IIRC that would be Constantine.
 
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Evangelicals flocked to Trump. Trump literally lived in a golden palace, he seems dedicated solely to Mammon. He is an adulterer. He preaches NOT turning the other cheek. He preaches fear of outsiders.

I can't imagine a less Christ-like set of behaviors and yet, the evangelicals flocked to him.

So is God really putting Trump in charge? Or are evangelicals taking it upon themselves to choose to elevate things which they excoriate in others?

Yes, Evangelicals voted for Trump, no question. Here is the thing though, Evangelicals were certainly not going to vote for Clinton, no matter who the other option was. What won the election for Trump, was not some massive turnout of white voters, it was the fact that so many; hispanics, blacks and women, were not willing to vote for Clinton, that did vote for Obama.
 
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Since Almighty YHWH puts whoever He wants in leadership positions, I would be careful to speak of "surviving" Trump's presidency. In reality, you are suggesting we are surviving YHWH's choice. The best thing we could all do is to pray for Trump that YHWH will direct his heart to do His will.

The reality is that Trump's presidency is a mess right now. God may have placed him there but God isn't pulling Trump's strings.

God usually gives the nations the leadership that they 'so richly deserve'. :eek:
 
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true it is
However, what you did was to leave the choice to others.
I would whether someone write someone in or vote third party than not vote at all ( assuming of course that one meets the qualifications to vote.
 
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Since Almighty YHWH puts whoever He wants in leadership positions, I would be careful to speak of "surviving" Trump's presidency. In reality, you are suggesting we are surviving YHWH's choice. The best thing we could all do is to pray for Trump that YHWH will direct his heart to do His will.
Interesting.

Did he change hearts or minds for some voters or did they vote how they already wanted to?
 
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