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Do ectopic pregnancy foetuses have the same right to life as a human being?As horrible as the situation of the baby's conception was, he or she was a human being that had every right to his or her life.
If only it were all so easyWould your sister not been able to do the college/marriage ect. if she had not decided to kill her unborn child? She could have got counselling for
her suicidal thoughts, had her child, given him or her up for adoption and continued with her life.
In any trioge (sp?) situation, you save the lives you can. In this case (tubal pregnancy), baby (fetus) will die no matter what. You can kill the baby early and save the mother, or you can let things run their course and allow both to die. You save whatever life you can.Do ectopic pregnancy foetuses have the same right to life as a human being?
It's not so cut and dry.I say that selfishness is the root cause. And who causes us to be selfish? The enemy- satan of course (but that is another topic alltogether)
I believe the reason people call for abortion to be legal is, simply put, selfishness. The abortion occurs as the mother (maybe under other's pressure) does not want the baby. Others do not want to feel the guilt of not picking up the pieces to help an unwanted baby. They selfishly want to spend their money on themselves and their wants rather than to sacrifice some for unwanted or unsupported babies. The mother puts her own wants above the baby's needs. In this day of birth control, she forgot to 'choose' abstinence or birth control and for some reason God gave her a life. Why? Ask Him.
That's not all . . . we need families to "adopt" these single mothers and their children. The men of the church are to come alongside these women and be the men in these children's lives. We women are to give them advice, and more practical help. If we (the church) were doing all these things, there wouldn't be so much fear for the single pregnant woman.It's not so cut and dry.
I'm wildly prolife, but from a different standpoint. Perhaps more liberal?? But mostly because I've been in the situation twice.
And until you've lived it - you really don't know what a woman thinks while she is pregnant and alone.
Does anyone realize how scarey it can be to raise children, alone? How difficult it is to work for minimum wage, have your kid in daycare (and not be able to afford it) and not have time for your child?
There is a lot more to think about here than whether or not a baby should live or die.
If more of the people protesting outside these clinics did more than just shout out to vulnerable women - then maybe we could get some real progress happening.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all put actions with our words, and donated a little time or money to help single mothers? Help with the cost of living, help provide affordable caring childcare?
We need some good social programs to take the place of the abortion clinics.
How true. And if only it could be done in live and not in a codemning manner.That's not all . . . we need families to "adopt" these single mothers and their children. The men of the church are to come alongside these women and be the men in these children's lives. We women are to give them advice, and more practical help. If we (the church) were doing all these things, there wouldn't be so much fear for the single pregnant woman.
Rachel
I have had an abortion so I know what it's like to face being alone. I know it very well. And I agree with your comment, we should do more to help mothers in crisis. I for one am lucky, my grandmother left me with a substantial trust fund and I am looking into starting a home for women here where I live. I want to help all I can. I could care less if I have to drive a used car instead of a new car. I'd rather take the extra money and help others. I don't require much in the way of material things to be happy. I'm grateful to have two wonderful children and to be alive.It's not so cut and dry.
I'm wildly prolife, but from a different standpoint. Perhaps more liberal?? But mostly because I've been in the situation twice.
And until you've lived it - you really don't know what a woman thinks while she is pregnant and alone.
Does anyone realize how scarey it can be to raise children, alone? How difficult it is to work for minimum wage, have your kid in daycare (and not be able to afford it) and not have time for your child?
There is a lot more to think about here than whether or not a baby should live or die.
If more of the people protesting outside these clinics did more than just shout out to vulnerable women - then maybe we could get some real progress happening.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all put actions with our words, and donated a little time or money to help single mothers? Help with the cost of living, help provide affordable caring childcare?
We need some good social programs to take the place of the abortion clinics.
Ignorance of birth control options? People can get pregnant while on birth control. Birth control is not 100%. The only thing that is 100% is abstinence.Ignorance of birth control options, first and foremost.
People do adopt but the government puts up many road blocks to adoption, it can take a year or longer to secure an adoption, I have a friend and his wife are trying to adopt and its a nightmare.That's not all . . . we need families to "adopt" these single mothers and their children. The men of the church are to come alongside these women and be the men in these children's lives. We women are to give them advice, and more practical help. If we (the church) were doing all these things, there wouldn't be so much fear for the single pregnant woman.
Rachel
What are the root causes of abortion?
You're looking at it from the wrong angle. A pregnant woman who wants to give her baby up for adoption will have no problem finding someone to adopt a newborn. A family looking to adopt may have to wait a long time because they are looking for a particular sex, color, etc. It's not the baby who has to wait...it's the family.People do adopt but the government puts up many road blocks to adoption, it can take a year or longer to secure an adoption, I have a friend and his wife are trying to adopt and its a nightmare.
Maybe I didn't express myself clearly. I'm talking about a family coming alongside the birth mother before the child is born, then helping the birth mother raise the child (possibly by making the birth mother a "part of their family", including living in their home). This would take much of the stress off the birth mother, making abortion a less needed/desired option for these women.People do adopt but the government puts up many road blocks to adoption, it can take a year or longer to secure an adoption, I have a friend and his wife are trying to adopt and its a nightmare.
That is also quite alot to ask of a family, for many people there home is there sanctuary. Read Proverbs 6, there it talks about the overextention of ones family and resources, I think alot of christians overlook this. Being charitable is good, giving money, helping at soup kitchens/homeless shelters, etc. But someones home is there inner sanctum. If someone were willing to do that it would be ok but the fact that it is not happening does not warrant judgment. I think people like to bash the church because they make an irrisponsible desicion and expect to be bailed out, its wrong to make that assumption and its wrong to expect outlandish handouts. You have to build alot of trust through friendship before most people are willing to let someone live with them.Maybe I didn't express myself clearly. I'm talking about a family coming alongside the birth mother before the child is born, then helping the birth mother raise the child (possibly by making the birth mother a "part of their family", including living in their home). This would take much of the stress off the birth mother, making abortion a less needed/desired option for these women.
Rachel
I think that is naive to state. Finances play a lagitimate roll in someones decision making. I think abortion is wrong (save the extreme cases of rape or medical complications) and putting the child up for adoption is a much better answer, however, money is a big factor and in this day and time things are getting more and more expensive. I dont know about anyone else but I like to drive a decent reliable vehical that suits the region I live in without being burdened by transportation issues, I like to have a decent place to live with entertainment to keep myself from loosing my mind, I like to have extra money in case of emergency etc, I like to have the resources to take on non trivial life goals (non trivial meaning it take more than a couple of bucks to accomplish ie pilots licence and aircraft purchase). If the child is not wanted how is that going to be on the child growing up in that household (assuming there not homeless because of the financial burden of the child). I would rather see someone use adoption but the fact you played the selfish card shows you dont really care if is put up for adoption or aborted because either of thoes options would be financially selfish.I say that selfishness is the root cause. And who causes us to be selfish? The enemy- satan of course (but that is another topic alltogether)
I believe the reason people call for abortion to be legal is, simply put, selfishness. The abortion occurs as the mother (maybe under other's pressure) does not want the baby. Others do not want to feel the guilt of not picking up the pieces to help an unwanted baby. They selfishly want to spend their money on themselves and their wants rather than to sacrifice some for unwanted or unsupported babies. The mother puts her own wants above the baby's needs. In this day of birth control, she forgot to 'choose' abstinence or birth control and for some reason God gave her a life. Why? Ask Him.
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