What are the origins of the "State" in the Reformed view?

[Jacque_Pierre22]

Do you think that people were always ruled by a government/king/chieftan/ or did that role evolve over time, to eventually become a State. Thanks

 

[BobRyan]

Do you think that people were always ruled by a government/king/chieftan/ or did that role evolve over time, to eventually become a State. Thanks

Adam and Eve where the only two people on Earth in Gen 3 and 4 - and had no "State" to rule over them.
Noah and his family were the only people on Earth in Gen 9 - and had no "state" to rule over them

 

[Jonaitis]

Do you think that people were always ruled by a government/king/chieftan/ or did that role evolve over time, to eventually become a State. Thanks

It began with Noah. This is what is taught. He established the first "kind" of government (Genesis 9:5-6) through the rudimentary law of capital offense/punishment. Prior to this, the world was "lawless."

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

It began with Noah. This is what is taught. He established the first "kind" of government (Genesis 9:5-6) through the rudimentary law of capital offense/punishment. Prior to this, the world was "lawless."

Genesis 10:5 "From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations." So if each nation has only one language, does this imply that nations should have one national language only? (this would imply modern monetary theory that currency unions cannot work inherently no matter what they do)

 

[Jonaitis]

Genesis 10:5 "From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations." So if each nation has only one language, does this imply that nations should have one national language only? (this would imply modern monetary theory that currency unions cannot work inherently no matter what they do)

You bring up an interesting point. I do not have an opinion on it.

 

[Jacque_Pierre22]

Another interesting point is that of the Carthaginians. Although Tyre and Sidon were destroyed by the Persian Empire and Alexander the Great, they still had colonies along the West African coast such as Carthage, some Romans spoke Punic; so there was no "centralized" state for them; they had profitable business and trading activities apparently because their empire wasn't fully destroyed until the Punic Wars, and were a formidable foe to Rome even without Tyre and Sidon. By being friends with everyone economically, they became a global power, like the Chinese are currently doing by controlling the Sea routes. I'm not sure why they destroyed the cities, but I guess because they were geopolitically aligned with Ancient Egypt so were seen as enemies of Greece and Persia.

 

[FireDragon76]

Reformed don't have a single political theology, though generally they tend to have a traditional "two kingdoms" doctrine, similar to Lutherans. There have even been Reformed anarchists, like Jacques Elul.