what if someone wants to accept the Christian beliefs.. but doesnt because of their family who might kick them out or kill them or sth?what if they believe in their heart? will they go to Heaven or hell? what if they want to believe.. bt dont b/c of their family or friends or sth?
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what about those in foriegn countries too scared?
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I recall nowhere in the scriptures that says you have to get your family's, friends, etc permission to believe in and accept Christ.
As I recall, the requirement for salvation is to accept Christ as your personal savior, ask Him into your heart, turn your life over to Him.
So, I doubt sincerely that your salvation is at risk because you (whoever) might be afraid to broadcast your decision.
Of course there will be those who cite scripture about having to suffer for Christ's cause and sake. I have a problem believing that those scriptures apply in such a case.
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As I recall, the requirement for salvation is to accept Christ as your personal savior, ask Him into your heart, turn your life over to Him.
So, I doubt sincerely that your salvation is at risk because you (whoever) might be afraid to broadcast your decision.
Of course there will be those who cite scripture about having to suffer for Christ's cause and sake. I have a problem believing that those scriptures apply in such a case.
Fred
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When a sincere heart encounters truth, belief happens. It doesn't not-happen just because others don't believe, or even because of threat. As Fred said, there's no law that says you have to immediately broadcast your newfound belief.... but what happens often is that once you accept that you've believed, the desire to broadcast it becomes stronger than the fear of any repricussions. Faith always trumps fear.
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God will protect those who believe in him and his son. This missinary in India came to accept the lord as his personal savior. His family was Hindu and the Lord protected him. Once a person accepted Christ, they belong to God's family. If one is kicked out, then God will provide a place for that person and give his protection. I've been protected by God. my mother in law did not like me marrying her son. Her son and I both have Jesus in our hearts and lives. She, however, is a satan woorshiper. Once we were married, she tried to kill me by giving me food with something I'm deathly allergic to, but God has protected me. She does not put spells on me because she knows that I'm born again and is protected by the blood of the Lamb!
I like Psalms 121, the whole chapter.
Also God judges the heart and it is important to have Christ in your heart.
Just send me a message if you have any questions.
I like Psalms 121, the whole chapter.
Also God judges the heart and it is important to have Christ in your heart.
Just send me a message if you have any questions.
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God does not protect people from death or persecution just because they believe in him. If a person in Iraq or Iran was a Christian, they would be killed by terrorists.
And most of us are Christians because it was passed down to us by the generations. Is it somebody's fault that their parents did not guide them to being a Christian? Is it somebody's fault that they live in a different region, where they will be taught that a different religion is absolutely true? I dont see how God can punish people for that.
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Like I said before:
"God does not protect people from death or persecution just because they believe in him. If a person in Iraq or Iran was a Christian, they would be killed by terrorists.
And most of us are Christians because it was passed down to us by the generations. Is it somebody's fault that their parents did not guide them to being a Christian? Is it somebody's fault that they live in a different region, where they will be taught that a different religion is absolutely true? I dont see how God can punish people for that."
How is it their fault for the above?
"God does not protect people from death or persecution just because they believe in him. If a person in Iraq or Iran was a Christian, they would be killed by terrorists.
And most of us are Christians because it was passed down to us by the generations. Is it somebody's fault that their parents did not guide them to being a Christian? Is it somebody's fault that they live in a different region, where they will be taught that a different religion is absolutely true? I dont see how God can punish people for that."
How is it their fault for the above?
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They have harmed others. If someone at school stole your calculator from you, you would want it back with an apology, along with some sort of punishment that would help prevent him/her from doing it again.
Think about what unrighteous means.
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[*] descriptive of one who violates or has violated justice- unjust
- unrighteous, sinful
- of one who deals fraudulently with others, deceitful
Let the wicked forsake their way, and the unrighteous their thoughts
I know that the words Christian and righteous are used too interchangebly, but we have only been made righteous in His sight through grace, not because we're suddenly inherently Perfect.
God doesn't want people to walk all over each other, and He will act in the defense of people who are oppressed by others. You will notice of course that doesn't mean all injustice has been wiped from the earth's surface. But we have a right to ask for justice, and an expectation that God will answer our cries for help when we are oppressed (even if the unjust is a famous Christian).
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Well, in connection with your first post, I think that the people whose families don't let them believe do still believe... they just don't sign up for church membership.
As for ending life, I think we have to face that we will all die someday. No one wants to die or think of it as a natural process, but it happens.
If we had no fear of bodily death, then we would lose respect for human life.
The default ending seems to have been body death, then delayed soul death (story of lazarus underground.) Jesus offered us something beyond that.
As for ending life, I think we have to face that we will all die someday. No one wants to die or think of it as a natural process, but it happens.
If we had no fear of bodily death, then we would lose respect for human life.
The default ending seems to have been body death, then delayed soul death (story of lazarus underground.) Jesus offered us something beyond that.
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The phrasing says that the fire is eternal, not the existence within the fire.
Mt 18:8
Mt 25:41
Jude 1:7
Mt 5:22
Mt 5:29 30
Mt 10:28 able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mt 18:9
Mt 23:33
Mr 9:43 45 47
Lu 12:5
Jas 3:6
Re 2:11 He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'
Re 20:6 over these the second death has no power
Re 20:14 This is the second death, the lake of fire.
Re 21:8 which is the second death.
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Quite right. And it is more than possible that the whole lake of fire motif is a metaphor, rather than being literal.
It strikes me as rather a blunt and unsubtle form of punishment, worthy as a metaphor, but completely unworthy of the God of Abraham, Moses and David, not to mention of Christ himself.
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You can quite safely assume that if it doesn't make sense to you, then it will not make sense to God either.
Man cannot outdo God in anything whatever, and certainly not in love, humanity and concern for our fellow men and women.
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Dear BloodFire. I know what you mean, and I understand your wanting to know. The Bible says, that God will make provision, and we know that God sees our hearts, and knows our every thought and wish. I also know that I am a coward, like the Disciples were, after Jesus was crucified. But they saw Jesus again, they knew He was not dead, and they were given the Holy Spirit, which made them strong and brave. Yet I sometimes wonder, would I be like them? I do not know, BloodFire, but I believe that God promised us, that He will make provision. I would not be too terrified to love the Lord, but I would remember Jesus`s Words to us, " be ye wise as serpents, but gentle as doves." I would ask the Lord daily, to protect me, but I would certainly invite Jesus, into my heart, and trust Him to lead me back to God. I say this humbly and lovingly, and send greetings. Emmy, sister in Christ.
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One thing that happens when you are born again of God's Spirit is that this life on earth doesn't mean as much to you as it did previously.
It's probable that those who believe but are too frightened to stand up for Jesus will find that his grace extends to standing up for them before Almighty God, but I personally wouldn't want to stake my eternal life on that probability.
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The God of Abraham, Moses and David struck people dead by raining down brimstone, by lightening for bringing "strange fire" and simply dead for touching the Ark of the Covenant.
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